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crashing on renders
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I think that you are looking at two different issues. Fix them one at a time.
FileIOSurrigate is installed by Vegas, so try reinstalling Vegas. Also, just for grins, try plugging the computer into the net and try again.Are there any unused media in your Project Media window? Remove them from the project. Also check any nested projects for the same unused media. Vegas will try to find all media in the Project Media regardless if it’s not used on the timeline.
Steve Mann
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I removed Vegas the regular way and re-installed it. It seems worse than before. I got the message to open an auto saved project, which I did. What was visible on the timeline did not fully coincide with what was visible in the preview window, which was what should have been on the timeline.
After the render completed, the problem manager came up and ended Vegas. On startup Vegas goes red in resmon several times stating is doesn’t react. It comes back on again after a few second though and I can start working.
What does seem to have improved, is the render speed. Before the re-installation a render of my project was supposed to take around half an hour, if it ever completed. Now it takes about 7 minutes and did seem to complete. For that kind of performance I had to prerender the intire project the last time.A fresh version of Vegas does not solve the problem. What part of Windows controls IO-operations? Could that have anything to do with it?
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“On startup Vegas goes red in resmon several times stating”
This just means that Vegas is waiting for a service to start before it can continue.
You say it’s worse than before, but it renders faster. I am confused because I think you are chasing multiple problems. So, what is the specific problem that is worse now than before reinstalling Vegas?
Have you updated your video device drivers?
Steve Mann
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I have deleted unused media from the project media bin, which made a big difference. On first startup I can’t even see a flash anymore. Great. Never thought this would make such a big difference.
Reinstallation made rendering seem to go much faster. But it also crashes earlier. And before I deleted the unused media, the time the screen went white was longer. Still haven’t been able to complete a render which was faultless.
Strange things happened on the timeline. Like when the image in the preview window is different from what it should be looking at the timeline. Specifically: there is no more video at that point on the timeline but there is still image in preview, as it should. Restarting solved that problem though.
Also track motion gave me some trouble, but this is probably unrelated. On several points I move a videotrack to follow a frame. Using pan/crop and the cookie cutter this works fine. Using track motion and the cookie cutter it doesn’t move in sync and I need several keyframes to adjust. Setting on all keyframes is linear. But in track motion it looks more like smooth.
I’ll try to hook up the editing computer to the internet. For this I need to move the router or buy additional hardware like a home plug or something. I’ll get back on that issue.
Thanks so far. You’re super!
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Now I’ve removed all non-used media from the project media list. I checked all drivers; the were all reported as the newest and without problems. What did make a difference, was updating Windows. It took several hours and about six restarts, but it should be fine now and rendering appears to go without a glitch. FINALLY!
Thanks very much for all your help and persistend answers. I needed that.BUT
I play the rendered file in Windows Media Player and for the first time it doesn’t play smoothly. Sound stutters and image seems to lag a bit occasionally. This is on a system with 16Gb DDR3 RAM and an i7 processor with no other software opened but what Windows does itself.
And the size of the file: is a 10 minute video at 720p supposed to be around 57Gb worth? I’ve never had such huge file sizes before. Size is just a litte less (56Gb) for avi widescreen DV. Previously I had file sizes of well under 5Gb for those 10 minutes.
So is the stutter memory paging and is the file simply too big? How do I get 720p quality in a smaller size?
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I’ve been criticized by people because I always update my O/S and drivers ASAP. And I can honestly say that I can count the number of Vegas stoppages in the past year on one hand. Around here a crash is exceedingly rare.
For the next question, I recommend that you start a new thread.
Filesize, Bitrate and Quality are all mutually dependent. If you want a smaller filesize, reduce the bitrate, which reduces the quality. Only you can decide what is the optimum bitrate for your project.
WMP is probably stuttering because the bitrate is too high. No one I know uses WMP to preview their video. It’s really old technology. I recommend VLC Media Player (free) or another that begins with “Wonder” and ends with “Player” and triggers a “bad words” filter on this forum. I don’t know why. It’s also free, but be careful that you read what options you are accepting, especially the defaults.
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MannMade Digital Video
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Hi Steve,
I want to thank you for all your excellent advice. You really pulled me through here, I’m not kidding. I got depressed because of all the hangs and crashes of my system and was afraid to accept new assignments becasue I couldn’t get the results out. But you kept on coming with sound advice and answered all my questions. I cannot thank you enough.
The system works! Keeping your OS in tune, obviously payes off. I just finished three video’s which all rendered several times without a hitch. I accepted an assignment I wanted. Things are looking up.
You’re my hero. Keep up the good work.
With great regard, Joost
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Thank you. Knowing that i can help others keeps me going on this forum.
Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com
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