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Could Resolve 12 kills traditional NLEs ?
Fred Jean replied 10 years, 10 months ago 10 Members · 20 Replies
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David Mathis
June 30, 2015 at 6:18 amI am neutral on tracks or the lack of tracks. I do see better trimming and keyframing capabilities in Resolve. It is yet to be seen how the edit page performance will be in 12, once available. The color page is a bit intimidating at first but very flexible. Resolve is a mixed bag for me and probably others due to performance in the edit page. Once that is resolved (pardon the pun as it is not intended) it will be an option worth considering.
Next step is to see if it integrates with Fusion. This could create serious competition for Adobe and could reduce their subscription base. How much that would be is a mystery. Kudos to the BMD team for Resolve and for bringing Fusion to the Mac platform!
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Fred Jean
June 30, 2015 at 9:28 amThe integration with Fusion is indeed one of the keys.
Do you have any info on that?Fred.
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Fred Jean
June 30, 2015 at 10:03 amMichael,
I share many of the comments you wrote here.
What about audio? What about RT?…
About stab it could or not be weak depending on the integration with Fusion, because it would be a paradox if they didn’t take care of their compo App integration considering the philosophy: “all-in-one”…
All those points and many more we didn’t talk about remain to be seen and true that Resolve IMO is
Very demanding in terms on HW perfs. And yes…we’ll see. But looks very promissing.If the product is good, I
Applaude we have another player on the scene.Fred.
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David Mathis
June 30, 2015 at 1:29 pmOops! I meant to say waiting to see if there is integration between the two. Sorry for the confusion. I have not heard anything on it. Going to edit my original post.
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Michael Gissing
June 30, 2015 at 11:44 pmFusion integration is an important key to the puzzle. I know people hate round tripping but when it gets to finishing we still often have to round trip to applications like Ae or Pr.
The documentary series I am currently working on is the closest I have come to a total finish in Resolve but I fell short on stabilizing. Otherwise grade finish and reversioning have all happened in Resolve from an Avid edit via AAF which had issues with multicam and clips with their proprietary plugins.
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Ryan Holmes
July 1, 2015 at 4:03 pm[Michael Gissing] “The big thing is can Resolve 12 handle outputting meaningful audio for post. Whilst the idea of staying in the one device for all picture work is a real possibility, audio in most pro workflows will be sent to an audio post facility so OMF, AAF or some sort of xml translation is important to editors choosing Resolve 12 as the edit NLE”
I would also add to this list delivery. The “Deliver” tab in Resolve 11 lacks good presets for mobile, Vimeo, YouTube, etc. It’s also hard to save dozens of presets cleanly in Resolve. Compressor and Adobe Media Encoder have such smooth interfaces for having to export many different versions. And more and more the encoding engines are getting hooks for direct links into Amazon S3, Vimeo, YouTube, Frame.io, etc. which can really speed up the workflow.
Before Resolve could replace my usual workhorse it needs:
(1) Better RT on all hardware – iMac, laptop, Mac Pro, PC, etc.
(2) Easier plugin capabilities (OFX do seem to struggle more than in other NLE)
(3) Way better media management
(4) Easy way for multiple editors to engage on the same .drp file for a multi-user environment (not necessarily at the same time, just being able to easily locate project files within database…I see this as a struggle for new users who are used to Avid or Adobe which creates a unique project file for a given job).
(5) Better delivery/encoding optionsI’m sure over time BM will address all these. And since they subsidize their software through their hardware sales, I do wonder how other NLE’s compete with this. In the race to the bottom of pricing you’re always sacrificing something (service? support? features? quality?).
Ryan Holmes
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Robert Wentz
July 6, 2015 at 8:13 pmAmong quite a number of obstacles – Unless Blackmagic decides to allow third party Video I/O devices (ie AJA KONA) with Resolve they don’t have a chance of causing the revolution that is being hinted at here.
They also should probably get up on finally qualifying (or not) AMD GPUs . . . As of January 2015, this is what Blackmagic support had to say about qualifying AMD GPUs in resolve:
“That’s not to say they don’t work, just that we haven’t tested and verified any at this point” -
Misha Aranyshev
July 7, 2015 at 12:06 am[Michael Gissing] “The big thing is can Resolve 12 handle outputting meaningful audio for post.”
There is Export to ProTools menu item in R12. We’ll see how well it works.
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Michael Gissing
July 8, 2015 at 1:42 am[Michael Gissing] “The big thing is can Resolve 12 handle outputting meaningful audio for post.”
“There is Export to ProTools menu item in R12. We’ll see how well it works.”
Yes I have noted that in a preview video posted by Oliver Peters. It looks promising in that they are doing the audio AAF and a reference vid at the same time. Seems bold but happy if it works as advertised.Might have to volunteer for beta. I use Fairlight/ Reaper and I also have AATranslator which handles AAFs so I can test it on a few different DAWs and translation software.
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Fred Jean
July 8, 2015 at 10:28 amScratch 8 is more friendly on those aspects.
Have you seen the rental plans? Interesting.https://vimeo.com/fredjeangasc
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