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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy Converting 23.976 to 29.97 with 3:2 pulldown using Compressor

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 18, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    [Matthew Boylan] “Perhaps you meant to say Cinema Tools can’t add pulldown? “

    Duh. Yeah, sorry about that. Cinema Tools, not Compressor.

    Compressor will do it, and do it well, it just has to be setup correctly.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 18, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    [Matthew Boylan] “How do you add pulldown with Episode?”

    I posted a setting a while ago that I use all the time for Episode to make DG Fast Channel SD movies from 24p HD sequences.

    You can find it here:

    https://f1.creativecow.net/254/dgfc-720p24-to-sd

    Jeremy

  • Max Frank

    November 18, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Thank you Matthew,

    Going to give this a try – thanks a lot!

    Wayne

  • Kat Michaels

    September 20, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I’m not seeing the “interlaced box” mentioned in the instructions on the original post. My output format is XDCAM HD 1080i60 with 48kHz stereo. Thanks for your help! Also, not sure why I want to select “fast” for the deinterlace setting, but I’m willing to give it a shot. This is for broadcast, so I assumed I’d need to select a higher quality. Anyhow, I’ll give it a shot if i can figure out the interlaced box thing. Thanks!

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 20, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    [Kat Michaels] “Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I’m not seeing the “interlaced box” mentioned in the instructions on the original post.”

    Hi. That is codec dependent. Some codecs allow you to set the field order metadata, some don’t. ProRes does, XDCam does not.

    [Kat Michaels] “Also, not sure why I want to select “fast” for the deinterlace setting, but I’m willing to give it a shot.”

    With interlacing, there’s no such thing a better quality interlace. It is either right or wrong, accurate or inaccurate. Using the “fast” setting means it’s done accurately as long as you have set the field order properly.

  • Eric Hansen

    September 20, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    [Kat Michaels] “Also, not sure why I want to select “fast” for the deinterlace setting, but I’m willing to give it a shot.”

    With interlacing, there’s no such thing a better quality interlace. It is either right or wrong, accurate or inaccurate. Using the “fast” setting means it’s done accurately as long as you have set the field order properly.

    it’s because you DON’T want it to DEinterlace. you’re actually forcing Compressor to interlace the footage to create the 3:2 pulldown cadence. i wish Compressor was set up a bit differently to make this more obvious. “fast” is what you want because it effectively shuts off the DEinterlace setting

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    Eric Hansen
    Production Workflow Designer / Consultant / Colorist / DIT
    https://www.erichansen.tv

  • Kat Michaels

    September 20, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Wow – thanks so much for the responses. I am waiting for it to output right now. Hopefully, all will go well with it. My final format cannot be Apple Pro-Res (they require XDCam), so I’m thinking I may just need to take my apple pro res file (assuming it plays smoothly) back into Final Cut, do the minor things I need to do to it, and spit it back out as an XDCam format. Anyhow, thanks again.

  • Eric Hansen

    September 20, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    I deal with a bunch of broadcasters that want either XDCAM or H.264 for their final delivery. so i make a master ProResHQ file and make the XDCAM and/or H.264 masters from that. the only time i wouldn’t do this is if my entire edit was XDCAM. but that doesn’t happen with the projects I work on.

    another thing to remember is that you cannot correctly analyze a 3:2 pulldown addition on a progressive monitor (such as a computer monitor). you won’t notice errors in field dominance. what you’ll see in Final Cut is doubled frames, even though that’s not technically what’s there. i keep an older 14″ Sony L5 monitor for this reason.

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    Eric Hansen
    Production Workflow Designer / Consultant / Colorist / DIT
    https://www.erichansen.tv

  • Kat Michaels

    September 21, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    Thanks again for all your help. I really appreciate it!

  • Eli Sanchez

    February 14, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    I don’t seem to have the interlace button in video settings within the encoder tab thus no drop down menu either. I’m assuming this is why my footage looks bad when I set the output fields to bottom first. If I compress setting the “output field” to source it looks ok but maybe it could be better.

    The client wants the video in 480×272 which are strange dimensions to me. Maybe this can account for the lower quality as well?

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