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Considering Premiere Pro – a few questions
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From my experience in both FCP and PPRo, I’d say that the stability issue is a hit or miss kind of thing. One XP build can be substantially different from another and the big stability questions arise on a PC.
On a Mac, I found FCP and PPro to be pretty much the same stability wise.
I find PPro to be much faster and some of the edting workflow more intuitive and less obstructive. For instance, when hotkeying an overwrite from the source monitor, it adds the in to out footage to the timeline starting at the playhead (or into the in and out on the timeline) the window focus doesn’t leave the source monitor, so i can keep on going to the next bit I want to put on the timeline. FCP bumps you out of the source monitor, focusing on the timeline.
Little things like that.
As for memory, 8GB is great, I get by on two and even do some 10 bit 1080P though the cpu is plenty fast. More is better, however. Dynamic link is SUPER slow.
Remember that Dynamic Link opens multiple instances of AE processes for each clip with the link applied. Adobe still hasn’t made it very efficient, so here, memory helps tons.
Tracy Peterson
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Thanks to those who are still responding — good to get a variety of perspectives. Seems everyone has different experiences regarding stability compared to FCP.
I am still curious if Premiere allows rendering HDV footage directly into output formats for SD DVD and Blue Ray (with custom bit settings), so that I do not have to recompress the footage twice (i.e. render in HDV, and then recompress into H.264 for Blue Ray or downscale and recompress into SD MPEG-2 for SD DVD).
Thanks,
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By default FCP might show a not rendered screen but if you opt for unlimited RT it will just drop frames like Premiere Pro.No not rendered screen.
Niether Vista 32 bit or XP 32 bit will see a full 8 gigs of RAM or even 4 gigs. It is one of the limits of a 32 bit OS not a limitation of Vista or XP. Even NT had a 64 bit version.
Other than that I agree with your comments.
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Chris,
FCP is a decent system but my FCP friend likes the fact that Premiere Pro adn Vegas can out put to an HDTV or even an old SD TV using the the video cards S-Video out. All we could do with FCP is use dual monitors. Premiere will just out put the image of the program monitor to the NTSC monitor. This makes the RT of Premiere Pro look much better with titles. It will not look as good as Edius but real close. I admit you have to tweak the graphics card or it can look like crap on the NTSC monitor.
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Hi,
I’m a CS3 user, so can’t comment yet on CS4. I edit on a Core 2 Duo 2.5 Ghz Laptop, Vista 64 bit with 4 Gigs of RAM, Nvidia 8600m GS 256 megs.
Most of my projects are very complex HDV videos, usualy about 30-50 minutes in length, I have found CS3 PPro to work like a dream on this system. Standard HDV on the timeline playsbacks in realtime with no chop, I can add 2-3 overlays/PIPS with HDV source and it will drop a few frames without rendering but not to the extent that it hinders editing.
It is also quite rare for PPro to crash, or for me to have to reboot the machine. I would say that on average this might happen about twice in a solid week of editing.
The only thing that I don’t like is Dynamic LInk of an AE project into PPro, although its fine at the edit level it takes a terrible amount of time for final exporting.
I find best workflow is to use DL for preview purpose but then render out the composition from AE and import it to premier this is about 20 times quicker than letting PPro do the rendering.
Is CS4 any better?
To summarise I find PPro a very reliable edit system, hope this helps.
Terry
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Terry Brown on Feb 28, 2009 at 6:00:22 am
“I find best workflow is to use DL for preview purpose but then render out the composition from AE and import it to premier this is about 20 times quicker than letting PPro do the rendering.
Is CS4 any better?”Interesting. Anyone else having this experience?
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The RAM question poses an interesting problem. I procured CS3 on the cusp of CS4 being released. By the way, don’t plan on buying a 64 bit machine/OS and expect to use CS3 – is flat out will not work. But to the opinion I am seeking: If 6G is minimum, and more is better, and CS3 only will work on 32 bit OS that can see no more than 3G, what is your opinion. “Expect reasonable performance on Vista 32bit (3G RAM) with Premier Pro CS3 (for a novice mind you)” or “Don’t bother even learning on CS3, since it cannot install on a 64bit system and will never be able to see more than 3G of RAM”. Since I am on the verge of investing significant time into a learning curve, I am grateful for all opinions on the usabtility of CS3 and would like to avoid the investment in CS4 and a new system for some time. Thanks.
wdaly
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If you are set on using Premiere CS3, it works fine in vista with 3GB. Really.
6GB minimum, where is that from? I’ve run both CS3 and 4 with no problems with 2GB RAM.
CS3 can run easily on a 5-600 dollar computer. You might want faster/larger drives for HDV and as you get in to high high end HD, definitely a better system, but if you are a novice as you say, that shouldn’t be an issue for a while.
Tracy Peterson
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If CS3 is working STEER CLEAR OF CS4.
Let them works the bugs out before you switch
Todd
Todd Roush
Dreamscape Digital Media
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“Anyone else having this experience?”
I think this may depend on the power of your system. I don’t notice any difference, and always let PPro render any DL clips.
—Eric
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