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Compounds and media management disasters
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I’ve skimmed most these posts. Did anyone ask if you’d cleared the undo que? It shouldn’t matter, but perhaps running mmanagement right after deleting the clips left it in memory. Perhpas Jeremy in your testing you might want to see if quitting the app and relaunching right before media management makes any difference. Report back!
FWIW, I just media managed a HUGE project full of media I’d reconnected, compounds I had to reconnect, XMLs the client gave me that I reconnected to m own, different set of events and it all managed fine as expected. Not the same path that Oliver is using but it was a huge mess of media management for sure.
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[Bret Williams] “FWIW, I just media managed a HUGE project full of media I’d reconnected”
Was the the complete project or a smaller subset? In other words, were you simply copying all of the media into a single Event? If that’s the case, you wouldn’t have run into the issue, since you wanted to bring everything over anyway, not just the “used clips” in one project among many.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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OK, ran a very simple edit test on my home system. These were the steps.
1. Edit project 1, compound it, break apart items.
2. Repeat for project 2 and 3.
3. Copy & paste clips from compound 1, 2 and 3 to new project (no actual compound on the timeline).
4. Dupe project and remove clips for #2 and #3 from this timeline.
5. Dupe+Used Clips.The result is a new event that includes the clips PLUS the compound used for those clips, even though it doesn’t appear as part of the project itself.
So what appears to happen is that a link is maintained between the compound and the project if they were somehow used together. In my original example, I had lots of compounds that were all intertwined in various ways, hence the issues.
The moral of the story is NOT to use compounds to edit, IF you intend to later “media manage” the edit. This tends to put Bill’s advice at odds with John’s 😉
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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One more point. If you delete the compound clips from the original events BEFORE media managing, then they don’t show up in the duped event. That’s probably the workaround answer for now.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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I guess it was just about everything but multi events and broken compound clips. I’ve managed quite a few like this and there were no errant clips that weren’t used, so I guess it’s just more evidence that the problem stems from the compound clips. Certainly shouldn’t work that way.
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Even without compound clips, media management is still lacking. I had an edit recently that pulled clips from 10 different drives. I tried to consolidate it to one drive so I could easily open it in the future. It took me a good hour and a half to track down duplicate file names so that it would allow me to to do it. And even after that, my 8 minute video took up 250 GB of space! Not exactly efficient. It would be nice if FCP X could do more than simply copy the exact file. Many times it’s a 15 minute interview that I use 30 seconds of. Other times a conference that I use 30 seconds of 2 hrs.
At this point I’ve pretty much given up on trying to consolidate for anything other than the most hairy projects. It just wastes too much disk space. Yes drives are cheap, but this is ridiculous.
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