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  • Walter Biscardi

    September 28, 2007 at 2:20 pm

    [Editguy69] “I think we’ve decided not to use Color because of the long render times and bugginess.”

    Buginess is certainly a problem, but render times shouldn’t be. I find that Color can render up to 50% faster than FCP for the same project and even ColorFX items thrown in.

    Just finished a 5 minute project, 8bit SD, and Color rendered the entire timeline in less than 15 minutes. 50% of the shots has Graeme Nattress’ Noise Reduction filter on them and many had a touch of blur thrown on.

    Same project in FCP would most likely take about 25 minutes with FCP 3Way, Levels and Broadcast Safe.

    But yes, it is a bit buggy yet and of course you can’t have any stills or graphics in a timeline going to Color so it takes some prepping. I am starting to feel more comfortable with it’s stability and will actually be sending the next round of Good Eats through the app. That will be our first broadcast project to go through Color.

    Colorista’s render times are comparable to the FCP 3-Way, but it’s much much cleaner.

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  • Shane Ross

    September 28, 2007 at 2:43 pm

    The only issue with Colorista is that is isn’t a realtime effect like the 3-way is. Yes Walter, if you have a fast enough raid, you can apply it and it won’t…but many don’t have 500MB/s to play with.

    That being said, it also utilizes your graphics card for render speed so it can render pretty quickly. No complaints here.

  • Chris Coote

    September 28, 2007 at 2:45 pm

    That’s strange, I was getting the opposite results.
    I took a sequence into color (ProresHQ 1080i 29.97) and just used a simple primary contrast adjustment.
    It took more than 3 times longer to render than a similar contrast adjustment in FCP 3 way
    with a broadcast safe filter added on. I think this is because rendering in color can’t take advance of the 8 core processors?

  • Walter Biscardi

    September 28, 2007 at 6:26 pm

    [Editguy69] “I took a sequence into color (ProresHQ 1080i 29.97) and just used a simple primary contrast adjustment.”

    ProRes is probably the reason. We haven’t seen anything like that with uncompressed and DVCPro HD timelines.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Broadcast and independent productions.

    All Things Apple Podcast! https://cowcast.creativecow.net/all_things_apple/index.html

    Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi

  • Rafael Amador

    September 29, 2007 at 9:15 am

    Hi Shane,
    I’ve got installed FCS2 but now I have not time to get in with Color. I’ve been trying Colorista and I think works great. However I see that when a drop Colorista it crush all the whites. Shal I use the FC 2or 3-W CC before Colorista to bring my whites down?
    Thanks for the help.
    Rafael

  • Walter Biscardi

    September 29, 2007 at 10:52 am

    [rafalaos] “hal I use the FC 2or 3-W CC before Colorista to bring my whites down?”

    Yes, that’s an issue they should have resolved in the next release of Colorista. It is actually bringing everything down to 100 when it should not. So if a shot is particularly bright, use the FCP CC tools just to drop the highlights down to 100 and then use Colorista.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Broadcast and independent productions.

    All Things Apple Podcast! https://cowcast.creativecow.net/all_things_apple/index.html

    Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi

  • Rafael Amador

    September 29, 2007 at 1:24 pm

    Thanks for clarifiying that Walter. I haven’t started yet with Color but keep an eye on the forum.
    Cheers,
    rafael

  • Walter Biscardi

    September 29, 2007 at 1:38 pm

    [rafalaos] “I haven’t started yet with Color but keep an eye on the forum.
    Cheers,”

    note that I corrected my post, I mean to say Colorista, not Color.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Broadcast and independent productions.

    All Things Apple Podcast! https://cowcast.creativecow.net/all_things_apple/index.html

    Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi

  • Shane Ross

    September 29, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    Thanks for answering that.

    Yeah, I adjust the highlights first, then add Colorista.

    I gotta remind them of this again…

    -shane

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