Color conversion

[Jerry Smith]

dell u2410

where should i post?

1 hand type as i hold spyder

[Jerry Smith]

https://f1.creativecow.net/11345/11345

[Walter Soyka]

You have a wide-gamut monitor. This is not for the faint of heart! You must make sure that your profiling solution supports wide-gamut displays. You must use color management in applications like Ae, because if you leave that kind of display unmanaged, everything will look grotesquely oversaturated on your display.

For the easy way out, you could do a factory reset on the monitor, set it to its sRGB emulation mode, and set the system color profile to sRGB.

Walter Soyka
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[Jerry Smith]

OK, that link seems to work. The main problem is that on all other machines, my other mac, my windows machine, my linux machine, those colors look too dark. They should be as child friendly as possible yet not super saturated. Except for the red. It can be a little obnoxious.

[Walter Soyka]

Not very scientific, but how does this image look on your other machines? This is the result of Color Profile Converter, going from the generic Wide Gamut RGB profile to sRGB.

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[Jerry Smith]

That looks pretty close to perfect.

Thanks thanks thanks thanks!

I need to see if I can get the workflow straight.

Should I go back into the original projects and add an adjustment layer to the main composition?

Or should I just drag the widegamutbounces into a new AE project as I did here? (I don’t want to degrade the audio in any way.)

What working space do I use? I’m tempted to stay with None. I need to pick these new colors off and get their hex codes so I can use them in the CSS for the webpages.

Given my colors are soooo simple, can I just use 8bits per channel? I have maybe 6 colors for each project. And a few transition colors for 1px transitions?

But thanks so much Walter. Tears of pain, tears of joy! I knew there would be tears!

What’s the charity again that you prefer? I’m so grateful!

[Walter Soyka]

[Jerry Smith] “That looks pretty close to perfect. Thanks thanks thanks thanks!”

Great. You’re welcome.

[Jerry Smith] “Should I go back into the original projects and add an adjustment layer to the main composition? Or should I just drag the widegamutbounces into a new AE project as I did here? (I don’t want to degrade the audio in any way.) “

You could do either one. Lossless audio won’t be affected. (If you want to get crazy, you could actually even build a LUT with Red Giant LUT Buddy that performs this correction and apply it with Adobe Media Encoder for easy batch processing.)

[Jerry Smith] “What working space do I use? I’m tempted to stay with None. I need to pick these new colors off and get their hex codes so I can use them in the CSS for the webpages. “

When you set a working space, it turns on Ae’s color management system. If your monitor were correctly profiled and color management were enabled like this, then you could use the Display Color Management feature to see an accurate rendition of color in the viewer panels. If you can get your monitor profiled correctly, you’d want to do this for everything. In general, use your destination space as your working space (most often either sRGB or Rec. 709, which are very nearly indistinguishable).

[Jerry Smith] “Given my colors are soooo simple, can I just use 8bits per channel? I have maybe 6 colors for each project. And a few transition colors for 1px transitions?”

8bpc is probably fine. Bump up to 16bpc if you do any gradients and see any banding. Several notable output formats (Animation codec. H.264) are usually only 8bpc anyway, but using 16bpc and rendering to an output module with Millions of Colors will enable dithering, which can smooth out banding.

[Jerry Smith] “What’s the charity again that you prefer? I’m so grateful!”

That’s the whole trick! It’s not which charity I prefer, it’s one you prefer. I shamelessly stole the idea from Jeff Almasol’s #devforacause hashtag. If this has been helpful to you, please consider making a donation reflective of that value to your charity of choice.

Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Jerry Smith]

OK! Thanks!

Tomorrow will be a long day as I’ll try and get the workflow right.

I’ll look at the LUT possibility as I have another small tweak.

I’ll update you tomorrow!

[Jerry Smith]

Everything went according to plan today.

Thanks so much Walter.

But there doesn’t seem to be an exact analog for PS. If I just convert from sRGB to WideGamut, it looks fine, but the hex numbers are off. I can sorta use the painbucket tool because I know what hex I want. But the transition pixels are off.