CNN is going with Adobe CC & Adobe Anywhere

[Charlie Austin]

[TImothy Auld] “Apple (or Avid or Adobe or Autodesk or Sony or Panasonic or Canon, et al) listening to their customers too much? This is an argument with which I am unfamiliar.”

lol. Like everything here, just an opinion. I mean this in the sense that they sometimes give people what they want, even if what existed was, potentially, “better”. The project Library was a really great way to organize and manage cuts. At the same time, it could be confusing and was “unfamiliar”. And it needed improvement. But “everyone” wanted a single FCP 7/Pr style single package, so that’s what they got.

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[Charlie Austin]

[David Roth Weiss] “It actually seems that Adobe listens to Apple’s editor customers a lot more than Apple listens to Apple’s editor customers.”

That hasn’t been my experience. Now, if by that you mean that Apple has not ditched magnetism and brought back fixed tracks, then you’re correct.

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[Timothy Auld]

And, the Lord forgive me – one more thing. Is there any evidence whatever that there was any kind of “deal” between Apple and Azteca. Or did Azteca just buy off the shelf and Apple got wind of it and the “deal” that was struck only had to to with featuring Azteca on the FCPX page?

I looked in vain on that very page for any quote that said, or even implied such as “Apple has been very responsive to our needs” or “we worked closely with Apple to make this transition happen” or anything even remotely expressing such a sentiment. If you are using this example to Apple is talking – to anyone – I just don’t see that evidence here.

Tim

[Charlie Austin]

[TImothy Auld] “And, also what about Azteca? How many seats? How much invested? Is it even remotely in the CNN ballpark?
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Dunno, CNN is huge, so probably not. If I had to guess, I’d bet Anywhere was the bit that sold them on Pr. It’s perfect for a Co. with the size, and deep pockets, of CNN.

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[Charlie Austin]

[TImothy Auld] “I looked in vain on that very page for any quote that said, or even implied such as “Apple has been very responsive to our needs” or “we worked closely with Apple to make this transition happen” or anything even remotely expressing such a sentiment. If you are using this example to Apple is talking – to anyone – I just don’t see that evidence here.”

Apple, for better or worse, doesn’t really talk about any deals they make. It’s my understanding, from admittedly secondhand sources, that Apple has been working closely with Azteca. But you’re correct, there is no “evidence”.

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~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Aindreas Gallagher]

adobe recently ran a code demo at one of their events where they presented three relatively small new features in the pipeline and asked people to vote their favourite on twitter – the winner was coded live over the weekend and slotted for the next update. It was batch selecting PPRo sequences from the project panel for export without having to open them – its a good feature.

whatever about the semantics of what actually constitutes listening – that above is definably listening, and dancing on hot coals to visibly perform for the subscriber. And to show off the fleet footedness in implementing features now they are a landlord instead of a tool seller.

for better or for worse apple overall follow the dictum that they can give the customer the thing they need and didn’t know they needed – the things the customer can’t think of. We all know its valid because no one saw the ipod, the iphone or iOS coming. Apple didn’t make a better symbian or a better dial kepyad – they completely upended mobile computing forever. Its just a question of whether or not that _KABOOM_ we have brought footage databases and a magnetic timeline into the world_ philosophy holds true in terms of the ongoing requirements of professional software customers.

Also it took apple an entire year to cook up a library container, as a full dot one release. that felt slow to me.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Walter Soyka] “I also remain hopeful that the service layer side of CC will grow over the coming years, expanding our capabilities beyond what product-only desktop software can do.
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the CC font selection is rather crappy, to the point of being meaningless – if that was startlingly strong that would shift my own needle a wee bit – the facility to use good fonts on non-internal (ahem) films would feel like adobe using their scale and heft with the CC base in an amazon S3 fashion to get me some surprising benefits. They don’t even have eurostile for god’s sake. Say even if they presented the full Helvetica Neue family. That might turn heads a tiny bit.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Walter Soyka]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “the CC font selection is rather crappy, to the point of being meaningless”

The fact that CC’s Files doesn’t let you play a video in the web browser yet bothers me a lot more.

But the full-on focus on CC is still relatively new. It took a while for all the integration features that CS promised to gel, too. I know that CC’s subscription is a dealbreaker for you, but I hope that the network/service stuff will eventually prove to be as cool as things like Dynamic Link and Direct Link.

I’m pinning a good amount of hope on this statement [link]:

[Mike Chambers] “In general, we are focusing our efforts on continuing to innovate in our creative apps, as well as building out the platform and infrastructure for Creative Cloud, with a particular focus on the service layer for 2014.”

Walter Soyka
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[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Walter Soyka] “The fact that CC’s Files doesn’t let you play a video in the web browser yet bothers me a lot more. “

yeah, I figured that elephant doesn’t even need mentioning at this point. John davidson wrote a good piece on it in the other place. He was mindboggled.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Bill Davis]

I’ve got to admit that after these weeks of daily use of 10.1 I still do miss the Project Library.

I get and like the “all assets in a unified library” idea. I just miss having that nice array of what now can be thought of as all my “cross library” projects laid out in skim-able lines with all the visual cues laid out = was kinda beautiful in a way the new Project icons is decidedly not.

Oh well.

Hopefully, in the long run, a loss in one area will turn into gains in others.

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