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  • Bret Williams

    January 19, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    I have some 5 year old drives, but they certainly aren’t being used much if at all. Either because they’re USB 2 or fW 400/800. Or bare ATA. Now I’m using TB or USB3 and the sizes are much larger. So even as a drive reaches the 3 year point it’s being relegated to the seldom used pile. And after the 3 year mark I have had lots of drives just go kaput.

  • Oliver Peters

    January 19, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    [Bret Williams] “And after the 3 year mark I have had lots of drives just go kaput”

    Yes, I agree, but these were likely not 5-year warranted drives. While a warranty is no guarantee of survival, most companies have run the math, which are really like insurance actuaries. At the end of warranty period the cost of repair becomes too high. That cross-over point determines the length of the warranty for a product. So, you are better off paying a bit more for a 5-year warranted product, than a 2 or 3-year product.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Bret Williams

    January 19, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    Like I said, I generally don’t even have a use for a drive after 3 years. It’s either old tech or too small, or newer bigger drives are just a better deal. I don’t agree to pay more for a longer warranty on something I don’t even know if I’ll have use for. Drives are relatively cheap. I prefer saving the money and putting it toward a backup solution than a drive with better warranty. I don’t ever buy extended warranties on anything either.

    Kinda OT, but lately I’ve been using a newer tech guardian USB mirrored raid system to keep all my files that I don’t want to lose. I started with 2 1terabyte drives. That filled up easily with photos and project masters. Then what I do, is take each of the mirrored drives and store them at separate family members homes. First I copy them to the new mirrored raid, which is currently 3terabytes. Those are relatively cheap seagates. Not the best, but they’re mirrored. Both would have to encounter simultaneous problems. It’ll be full in a year and I’ll do the same and move to 4 or 5 terabyte drives. I also have a Pegasus tb raid 5 that I work off of as well as the pile of little usb3 and esata drives scattered about. The Pegasus chassis has had issues before and been repaired. But likely I’ll want something faster as we move toward 4k. My 2terabyte esata graid is just sitting gathering dust. It’s hooked up to the iMac, but I never use it. It’s maybe 3.5 years old.

  • John Davidson

    January 19, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    Our technical philosophy is that anything over 3 years old needs to be replaced (drives, macs, storage, etc) if there’s a better solution available. I think it’s easier for us to adhere to this philosophy since we sell creative, not post. Post is merely bundled into our creative.

    John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 19, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    [Rick Lang] “Maybe I’ll get to play with the MBPr (and the next version of the iMac) for a day. “

    You are a very kind father!

  • Jason Jenkins

    January 20, 2014 at 1:12 am

    [Michael Phillips] “And to add on to Oliver’s great info, note that disaster recovery from SSD drives is extremely difficult to impossible. Not that I have first hand experience in this, but is what I heard from reputable drive recovery services. As with all drives, some sort of automated backup system should be in place. “

    Yep. I had an OWC SSD blink out on me (never to awake again). It was less than a year old.

    Jason Jenkins
    Flowmotion Media
    Video production… with style!

    Check out my Mormon.org profile.

  • Rick Lang

    January 26, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    John, I got to play with my daughter’s brand new Retina MacBook Pro yesterday for a few minutes so I downloaded the BMD SpeedTest app. 985 MB/s Write speed. As my 18 month old granddaughter would say, “Oh, wow!”

    Rick Lang

    iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB

  • John Davidson

    January 26, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    It’s impressive, right? Here’s one funny thing we noticed. The 2013 iMacs max out at about 700MB/s read / write, which matches the speed of the SSD in the Macbook air. 700 is still great, but I guess Apple went with a different SSD for the iMacs and Airs.

    John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

  • Rick Lang

    January 26, 2014 at 11:16 pm

    Very impressive on the laptop indeed. Although people have helpfully suggested I shouldn’t worry about putting one terabyte of flash in the new Mac Pro, these results may offer some validation. If I set aside half the internal flash for video, it would allow me to be self-contained for travel and be very productive for shorts with that portable desktop aka new Mac Pro. Of course self-contained may be a stretch because it still needs a monitor.

    Rick Lang

    iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 27, 2014 at 2:16 am

    [Rick Lang] “Although people have helpfully suggested I shouldn’t worry about putting one terabyte of flash in the new Mac Pro, these results may offer some validation.”

    I don’t see how you could not put 1TB in there. You almost have to.

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