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[Herb Sevush]

Mark –

That was a very reasonable post. You talked about your workflow and why FCPX is a good fit for you. I have no problem with that. Someday it might work for me, I haven’t ruled that out.

It does irk me though when you, or anyone else, starts pontificating about why FCPX is great for everyone and destined to be the future of video editing, and how perfect Apple was in it’s release strategy, and how everyone who doesn’t see this is looking out their ass. When we all stick to talking about what we do, instead of what other’s should be doin, this forum works a lot better.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Herb Sevush]

[Craig Seeman] “Maybe a rare moment but I agree with Herb.”

That must have been a tough sentence to write, but I appreciate it.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Craig Seeman]

[Christian Schumacher] “Ultimately I realized Apple is going to kill its computer line.”

Mac sales are UP! Market share is growing. There’s no reality that you can base your comment on.

and if you look a revenue CPU sales are higher than iPad.
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/18/apple-records-q4-2011-earnings-of-6-6b-on-28-3b-in-revenue-tops-100-billion-in-sales-for-fiscal-2011/

[Christian Schumacher]

OK, Craig as it is today, you’re quite right.

I meant it in a way to further consolidate their Mac computer line in the future.
As arm processors and touch surfaces evolve they will eventually kill it for good.

Shortly, there will be no Mac Pros and Mac Minis, just Imacs.
After that happens only the iPad line and the iPhone line will survive.

Makes sense? Consolidation of OS is coming too, remember?

[Mark Dobson]

Herb,

There’s no pontificating going down at my end.

Just expressing an opinion within the confines of this forum which by it very name is set up to debate the pros and cons of this new incarnation of FCP.

My impression of this forum is that probably 30% are pro FCPX and 70% find fault with both the software and the way it was introduced.

Maybe these percentages will even out a bit as time passes.

[Craig Seeman]

[Christian Schumacher] “I meant it in a way to further consolidate their Mac computer line in the future.
As arm processors and touch surfaces evolve they will eventually kill it for good.”

Of course at that point you’re going to see major changes in all computer makers.
Of course that’s still not killing the computer line. It means that computers themselves are evolving.

I do think consolidation is already under way. MacBook gone whereas MacBook Air expands. I think in the next couple of years the MacPro may end up like a super powered MacMini.

Arm has a long way to go to equal the best i7 but the i7 and heirs are getting more “fuel efficient.”

[Christian Schumacher] “Shortly, there will be no Mac Pros and Mac Minis, just Imacs. “

As I note above, I think MacPro will be more like the Mini, not like the iMac. Again I agree about consolidation but I think it will evolve down to three variants. Mobile, Modular, All in one. Expansion will be through ports like Thunderbolt and PCIe as a slot will decline. Multiple internal hard drives will go away as well. I see SSD and one “traditional” internal hard drive as a standard for desktops.

The mobile side will get interesting given iPad vs MacBook Air. As OSX and iOS get closer the 11″ MBA would almost be iPad with a keyboard. Arm might have to be competitive with dual core i7.

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Christian Schumacher] “Well, at least some of them actually but the point was, this is a Beta Software.
Now I can’t work in peace anymore without someone having problems wtih it.
I’m not talking here about me or other editor who may be well-informed.
I’m talking about people who are now able to download it to their computers.

Some are screwing up systems without following Apple’s directions.
Some had been loosing hours of work.
Others had bought new X27 to find out it doesn’t translate compound clips. “

Hmm. I guess it still takes a professional to run Final Cut Pro?

Also, it’s really clear on X27 website what it does and doesn’t do. First on the list of things it doesn’t do; compound clips.

[Jim Giberti]

[Mark Dobson] “FCPX is so radically different from any previous version that any way it was presented was going to be controversial. “

Hey Mark,
I like the program and I’m editing a bunch of work with it, but I can’t agree with this.
Life is filled with change, it’s the nature of the thing.
Technology even more so.
But that doesn’t mean it can’t be handled thoughtfully and in a way that satisfies both the new user and the existing base of editors making a living with your old technology.

I don’t find anything the Herb wrote that would be remotely difficult for Apple to have done and it would have had a good deal of positive impact. The essential question will always be why they chose the hard road.

[Christian Schumacher]

You’re right.

It does [still] require a professional to run FCP X in some ways.
Thus we have light users messing up just to try to work it out.

And yes.

X27 website is crystal-clear regarding not translating compound clips.
Apple also has pragmatically stated how to upgrade to its new NLE.

Yet, people are making simple mistakes like those above.
The annoying part is to have people like me to pull it off for them.

This is something like a spill over effect, you know?
It’s due to the perception of “easy-to-buy-it-and-easy-to-use-it”.

I’m OK with that, now. Just wishing it could’ve been different.

[David Roth weiss]

[Jim Giberti] “The essential question will always be why they chose the hard road.”

And, a road that requires radical adjustments in the way millions of editors think and even talk about some of the most mundane aspects of editing.

Worst of all, it prioritizes clip collision avoidance at the expense of creative editing.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.com

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