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Can we perhaps hold the triumphalism …?
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Hehehe, good one.
I wonder though. FCP7 used to have a nice tool for that, on screen in the master window. Why did they abandon that?
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The ability to see 2 or more time codes at once is one of the main reasons I dont use FCPX more often.
In Avid my TC window which is always up – has about 6 lines of crucial information at a glance. Priceless IMO.
V1 TC Audio tracks 1,2,3 TC ( my syncd audio) Audio 4 TC (VO) Absolute Duration and Duration In/Out
Thats just one of my setups for Promo, Trailers and Commercials.
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[Neil Goodman] “In Avid my TC window which is always up – has about 6 lines of crucial information at a glance. Priceless IMO. “
No, no, no – you should be using satellite timing. Don’t you know anything?!!
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[Mike Warmels] “I wonder though. FCP7 used to have a nice tool for that, on screen in the master window. Why did they abandon that?”
It took them until version 6 to even ADD it. We had to buy this plugin from Digital Heaven.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “No, no, no – you should be using satellite timing. Don’t you know anything?!!
“Its actually starting to get super ridiculous around here to the point I dont want to read anymore.
People are coming up with great feature requests daily – YET the people here who know X the best (coughcoughbillandrobincoughcough) keep saying they dont need or want them and talk about some time in the future where all my daily needs will be absolete.
Well – wake up – Today is today and modern workflows are different for each and every person and shop.
You guys should want X to grow as much as possible – not hinder its growth because of a single minded mentality.
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[Neil Goodman] “modern workflows are different for each and every person and shop”
I think this is a very important point.
There’s a sense in some quarters that workflows are congregating around a single simplified model where it’s possible to be reductive about what you need and don’t need, whereas out here in the real world what I see is a proliferation of different workflows that are getting continually more complex and varied … not less.
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OK, Bill, pretend it’s not timecode for a second. Pretend that every clip started at 0.
Now let’s say you get a folder full of color corrected renders, or perhaps it’s one huge color corrected movie, and since FCPX has no relinking function that we have moaned about here, we want to match shots back by hand. A good way to do this is by relative time.
If you edit a :30 promo from a 1.5 hour movie, you’ve only used a small percentage of the total 1.5 hurt movie. And when you receive the ‘final’ version of the 1.5 hour movie and you need to replace your old shots with this new version, you need to see the time count (don’t call it timecode, because it’s not important) of BOTH movies at the same time to make sure things are lined up.
Now, lets’ say that the second ‘final’ movie you got isn’t the exact same as the fist movie you recevied and you need to calculate the offset amount and different points in this movie. It would be much easier to do this if you could see the current time count of BOTH movies at the same time, rather than trying to clip ski which is very inaccurate when you are doing exacting work that requires being accurate to the frame.
So call it whatever you want, but seeing the relative time of EACH clip, including audio, would be very useful to a great number of people.
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Ha, good one. We did enjoy it for a couple of years, though.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “out here in the real world what I see is a proliferation of different workflows that are getting continually more complex and varied … not less.”
I would have hoped that at this point in the evolution of X, and of this forum, that we could agree that a feature request by a mostly-happy, well-informed, professional customer could be understood as NOT an attack.
It gets back to my problem with people not taking posts at face value, and why I’ve been so adamant that people NEED to do this, and not try to impute some hidden, inevitably darker motive. It’s a fgking request, man. I’m not even seeing any of these requests expressed as demands. Nobody is talking about taking pitchforks and torches to storm Apple’s keep. Nobody is talking about leaving X over any of these, or all of them combined.
Nobody’s talking about anybody’s mom. LOL
What has me flummoxed, though, is that somebody on this thread suggested that we avoid HYPE. WHAT? Whose bright idea was THAT? LOL
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[Tim Wilson] “I would have hoped that at this point in the evolution of X, and of this forum, that we could agree that a feature request by a mostly-happy, well-informed, professional customer could be understood as NOT an attack. “
Of course Simon’s original post was a bit sardonic. So I’m not sure I’m that sympathetic. But, yes, generally I agree.
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