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  • Joseph Owens

    April 14, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    [Adam Halasz] “It’s just MXF and XMLs after all… “

    I wish I could be that optimistic, but it is a little more complicated than that. For example, HTTPS ‘open source’ apparently seems to have some flaws in it after all, and similarly (but not exactly) the DCI recommended practice is being misinterpreted all the time. You haven’t received any after-hours, day-before-the scheduled-exhibition phone call from yet another supposedly compliant theatre server just out of next-day FedEx range that unless you come up with something in the next couple of minutes your show’s off, I assume. After that particular drive and version played a number of other festivals and theatres.

    For example, naming conventions. There is a structure around that which seems to be based on FAT32 hierarchy… why, I don’t know, but many validation metadata examiners don’t check it. Because UUIDs are derived and internally cross-coded, its not something you can just revise in a text editor. It means a complete re-export. Ask me how I know this.

    jPo

    “I always pass on free advice — its never of any use to me” Oscar Wilde.

  • Juan Salvo

    April 15, 2014 at 4:49 am

    No one listens until they get burned. If you’re lucky it’s only a small one.

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  • Adam Halasz

    April 15, 2014 at 8:06 am

    Hi,

    @Joseph: yeah, actually I’ve been in this kind of predicament, literaly how you described it. DCP made with Clipster, copy MD5 checked, DCP checked in cinema room and still we had an ingest problem with the cinema server. Plus: it wasn’t working on another continent. So I hear you.

    It’s not about optimism. We have tools now which are doing these bunch of XMLs correctly. I know the hierarchy and how the cpl and pkl are related also with the subtitle cpls, and I have a pretty good guess how you know it. 🙂

    Of course you shouldn’t change it with a text editor. 🙂 like eating soup with a fork. I have a pretty good guess how you know this too…

    You’re right in everything but we’re talking about apples and oranges.

    You’re saying how it works and I totally agree with it, and I’m curious about how it can work even simpler soon.

    Let me put it this way: When you want to be as correct as possible for the DCP package, you have to export XYZ JPEG2000 (takes a lot of time since it is coding and there’s no GPU support), and then run another round in another tool to make a DCP package, then ingest the DCP into another tool which is connected to your monitoring device. Would be nice to simplify this process a bit.

    What I’m looking forward to: is we do this whole thing in one software where we can control the gamma, the LUTs, the color space and all other things correlated to how it will look in the cinema.

    My thought about this: It will happen that we export DCPs from the grading software. With simple stuff it is already happening (commercials with 5.1 sound, short films). Nature of progress.

    I was just simply curious in the beginning if anyone heard anything about more than 1 subtitle for a DCP in Resolve 11… That’s it… 🙂

    The rest is on the developing teams.

    Cheers,

    Adam

  • Joseph Owens

    April 15, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    [Adam Halasz] “My thought about this: It will happen that we export DCPs from the grading software. With simple stuff it is already happening (commercials with 5.1 sound, short films). Nature of progress.”

    Yes, someday Jerusalem.

    (Chariots of Fire theme begins playing in the bg)

    Titles fade up: Resolve XXX… not just Smoke, not just Mirrors…

    All formats, All the time. Every “what were you thinking” kludge that an offline editor has duct-taped to a timeline because they didn’t know how the software worked…

    The Living End.

    Fade out.

    jPo

    “I always pass on free advice — its never of any use to me” Oscar Wilde.

  • Adam Halasz

    April 15, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    I find your lack of faith disturbing…

    A

  • Michael Stirling

    April 18, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    We completed our first DCP with subtitles in the FULL version of easyDCP recently and it wasn’t plain sailing so I’m not holding out for things to just work in Resolve11. It seems pretty straight forward to create multi language versions from within the full version (both audio and subs) but I wonder what would happen when they got out into the world.

    Michael.

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