Can anyone help with a Codec problem?

[Richie Tovell]

Resolume is a really cool little live video app, it has some awsome FFGL effects, unlimited layers, host’s audio VST’s and is fully midi controllable.

https://www.resolume.com/avenue/features.php

My only problem at the moment is this animation codec, as virtually every layer will have to have alpha channels I’ll have to find a better file format or compression technique.

[Richie Tovell]

Resolume is a really cool little live video app, it has some awsome FFGL effects, unlimited layers, host’s audio VST’s and is fully midi controllable.

https://www.resolume.com/avenue/features.php

My only problem at the moment is this animation codec, as virtually every layer will have to have alpha channels I’ll have to find a better file format or compression technique.

[David Bogie]

[Richie Tovell] “My only problem at the moment is this animation codec, as virtually every layer will have to have alpha channels I’ll have to find a better file format or compression technique.”

Yar, I stopped by their site and slogged through some of the marketing videos. But I didn’t have time or interest to find the crucial elements needed to help you more directly. I still do not understand how this application is processing the alphas from multiple, full resolution video streams. Several of their effects look more like a simple color key is being applied to achieve stacking and overlays. That’s an entirely different computing process than reading and compositing alphas from Animation codec-based video files.

Time to talk to other users of the application. There has to be a support community. of very hip video geeks.

Rendering out of After Effects to Animation is easy and a basic foundation in this business.

bogiesan

[Jan Sherlink]

The Sheervideo-codec from Bitjazz might be an alternative.
32 bit + alpha and mostly about half the filesize of Animation.
you can find a demo here.

try Quicktime PNG also.
32 bit + alpha, small filesize but processor intensive for encoding.

cya,

Jan

[Richie Tovell]

Cool, oh no it deffinately processes Alpha channels and it works very well with them, it’s not colour keying. It’s about the most advanced AV app out there at the momen’t, If your interested in it give it a download, it comes with a demo project, if you do, there are a couple of very nice effect’s in that app that you should have a look at 1 being: “Pixels in space” 2 being: Luma waves. (These are the new Free Frame Effects) created with Open GL.

I’m really cool now though, I’ve sorted out everything I needed to, the animation compression I’m using to render my projects with is compressing them to a reasonable size (about half of what I originally thought). I also treied the Huffy compression but it wouldn’t play ball. but I’m cool with the animation.

Thanks all of you for your help, I’ll be getting back to work now. 😉

[Richie Tovell]

I gave it a shot, but the movies I rendered with it won’t play in any meedia players or the VJ app, it’s a shame because I know this codec works for a lot of people.

Thanks for the pointer though, I may still be able to get it to work.

[Rhett Robinson]

Hi Richie,
I use the HuffYUV Codec quite a bit, and have pretty darn good success with it (no, I don’t render it out in something else first). It’s good enough I frequently use it to pre-render my complicated bits. Just make sure & pick RGB+Alpha when you render (I’m not sure if that’s where the hangup is). There are a few other AVI compatible ones, but that’s what I use… If you *can* use QuickTime, you can use a PNG option… compresses really nicely, with alpha.

My best advice? See what is in use (Their site refers to the Indeo codec several times, but also QuickTime),and use that.

Good luck

[Richie Tovell]

Ahh, now I had problems getting huffy to actually install, can you direct me to a site that you know you can download a cosha version, if you can that would be a big help.

The problem I think was that the version I downloaded didn’t have any set up file, it was just some data files and read me text, I couldn’t workout where to put the files from what I downloaded.

Any clues?

[Rhett Robinson]

I think that’s the “setup” (I downloaded again to be sure)… just right click on the .inf.

It’s in the “readme” .

“This is Huffyuv v2.1.1, by Ben Rudiak-Gould. (If the archive you
downloaded has an older version number, it’s because you followed an
outdated link.)

This software is Copyright 2000 Ben Rudiak-Gould. For information,
distribution conditions, and full source code please visit the Huffyuv
home page at https://www.math.berkeley.edu/~benrg/huffyuv.html .

To install Huffyuv, right click on huffyuv.inf and select “Install.”
”

if you didn’t get the right thing (only 3 files), here is the genius who invented this and others (avisynth, in WIDE use)

https://neuron2.net/www.math.berkeley.edu/benrg/index.html

Good luck!

[Richie Tovell]

Hey thanks Rhett I’ll give it another shot.

Regards Richie.