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Call me crazy if you want… but I know an imminent extinction when I see one. :)
Peter Corbett replied 13 years, 1 month ago 26 Members · 81 Replies
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 10, 2013 at 9:40 pm[Sandeep Sajeev] “In fact the ability to save Node/CFX/Action setups etc and have them accessible to multiple users as well is fantastic…once you get used to working that way.”
yep – I do genuinely get that – I started in flint back in the days of yore.
But then I quietly tiptoed away and hit up AE 3.1 on the dual pentium intergraph with pvr drive we had 🙂our station design dept had crazy, crazy kit for ’99.
Our chief technical guy had come from selling discreet stuff in the states. He figured TV could use some flame. We got a second hand indigo 2 extreme to run flint. mad tv kit for the time.[Sandeep Sajeev] “I’m assuming that SpeedGrade also works well with AE now? And that the whole Lumetri thing works within AE too?”
mmmmmmm.
You’d think they would have mentioned it. let’s call that for 8 eh?If you had to pick, you’d figure getting it playing with PPro was first order priority.
speedgrade does look nice this release though.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Sandeep Sajeev
April 10, 2013 at 10:12 pmmmmmmmm.
You’d think they would have mentioned it. let’s call that for 8 eh?If you had to pick, you’d figure getting it playing with PPro was first order priority.
Sure, it’s very clear now what the approach is – and Adobe’s Dynamic Link methodology is really coming together nicely. If Lumetri isn’t available for AE now, then it’s definitely just a matter of time – in fact with Cloud updates coming thick and fast,you may not even have to wait until CS8 for this functionality.
So with Keylight, Mocha, Particular and C4D Lite in AE, a full fledged NLE in Premiere and a dedicated grading App in SpeedGrade – it’s all there isn’t it? And no need to switch between AJA and BMD for I/O and monitoring, as you need to if your workflow is NLE+Resolve+Smoke.
It’s a really good time to be invested in the Adobe pipeline.
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 10, 2013 at 10:37 pmnah mate, no particular as of yet surely? 🙂
granted they bought all of maffit, the one that got us 4 colour gradient (that was cycore right?), final effects and like a million others .
I’ll say the one that gets me that no one notices? – the fact that they bought grain surgery way back when – there is full blown temporal degraining in AE that can save almost any green screen before you throw keylight at it? or just rescue dodgy low light dslr?
I was reading that resolve are witholding degrain operations from free resolve, and I’m like – hey, mate? grain surgery.
when we bought it as a plugin it was over a grand.
And hilariously, its just sitting in AE with temporal analysis set off by default. granted all the old grain stock matches are gone but still – the match grain analysis for post cg elements is still there.I love AE. love. it.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Michael Gissing
April 10, 2013 at 11:07 pm[Brent Cook] “guess it would be less confusing if the name was more NLE ambiguous. To me “FCPX or Not” implies arguments for or against FCPX, including discussion of other NLE’s but discussed in direct correlation to FCPX, otherwise why have it in the name? Why not have a General NLE forum and a FCPX forum where FCPX news is shared along with whatever other discussion outside of specific techniques?”
Only people new to this forum make this request. Each time the balance of opinion from the forum stalwarts is that the name change is not important and after a few days new posters get into the swing. The quirky name, born from a moment two years ago, becomes irrelevant until a new poster raises the same issue and we shrug and move on.
If it mattered the name would have been changed long ago.
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Michael Gissing
April 10, 2013 at 11:29 pmWhile I am feeling good about picking CS6 as my FCP Legend successor, I don’t think I sense and extinction event of Legend just yet. The bulk of my finishing work still comes from Legend and I do see the movement to Adobe as being more common than to X. That said I don’t think CS7 is going to accelerate that trend so fast that it kills Legend off. The migration is painfully slow. Editors are really clinging to FCP7.
If anything I am hearing from editors that wanting to move on from old MacPros is as much an issue. X, CS7, AVID7 are all going to squeeze Legend and although CS7 is likely the more significant player in that squeeze from now on, Legend will linger for many years.
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Charlie Austin
April 10, 2013 at 11:36 pm[Michael Gissing] “Editors are really clinging to FCP7.
If anything I am hearing from editors that wanting to move on from old MacPros is as much an issue. X, CS7, AVID7 are all going to squeeze Legend and although CS7 is likely the more significant player in that squeeze from now on, Legend will linger for many years.”
I agree. I see it here daily. Also, regarding the Mac Pro… FCP 7, X, CS6, and MC 6.5 all run way faster on my new loaded 27″ iMac than they did on my (not terribly) old fully loaded Mac Pro. And our GFX guy is now running AE and C4D on a retina MacBook Pro. I thought he was insane, but it’s been working just fine for him…
FWIW, YMMV etc…
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Joseph W. bourke
April 11, 2013 at 12:02 amWell, in the interest of good taste, I didn’t have the Honey Badger tear up the FCPX logo.
Joe Bourke
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 11, 2013 at 12:12 am[Charlie Austin] “I agree. I see it here daily”
yep – in theory this is basically a perfect slide off ramp, said the PPro guy – apple are carrying a very large editing egg with FCP7 – whatever anyone (me) says snarkily, apple are really unlikely to tip FCP to the pavement with so many creatives still on board.
On a basic level, I don’t think apple have that in them, given who they fundamentally are.Win or lose, its very hard to see apple throwing out classic FCP operability in the near term unless there are structural OS problems.
you might be surprised how there are no such problems two years past EOL.At the end of the day – Apple is actually Apple. They are likely to protect the editing software environment they created.
This is a clean field – if you like FCPX? jump and go.
If you like PPro 7 – well, you have sense. 🙂https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Brent Cook
April 11, 2013 at 12:23 amOk, but to be frank, only an idiot would ask that kind of question in any forum rather than actually work with the software, see if it works for him and ask experienced users about specific concerns.
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Charlie Austin
April 11, 2013 at 12:32 am[Aindreas Gallagher] “This is a clean field – if you like FCPX? jump and go.
If you like PPro 7 – well, you have sense. :)”heh, well, if i were in love with FCP 7, Pr would be the logical choice. But, I’m not. I want the new hotness with the new tricks… not a younger, prettier version of the same old gal. 😉
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