Call me crazy if you want… but I know an imminent extinction when I see one. :)

[Steve Connor]

[Charlie Austin] “Once it dies down, maybe all the joy will move over to the PP forums where it belongs. Or not. :-)”

I believe the most joyful amongst us are already spreading their happiness over there too

Steve Connor

There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

[Steve Connor]

[Bernard Newnham] “once you’ve gone PPro you don’t need Macs any more and can not only save lots of money but also have the latest gear any time you want.
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Couldn’t resist eh? 🙂

Steve Connor

There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

[Brent Cook]

I don’t quite get that. If I was thinking of using PP (which I am) I would go to the PP forum for my PP information (which I do). Do people who are thinking of using it require different information from those who are already using it? I would think the best place to get info would be from those who are already putting it through its paces, rather from other people like me who are interested but don’t have much first hand experience.

Reminds me of something the late Mitch Hedburg said, “I play the guitar, I taught myself how to play the guitar, which was a bad decision… because I didn’t know how to play it, so I was a sh**ty teacher. I would never have went to me.”

[Herb Sevush]

[Brent Cook] ” Do people who are thinking of using it require different information from those who are already using it?”

Yes, if I want to discuss it in terms of how it stacks up against all my other choices, not in a vacuum.

If I want to learn something about a particular PPro feature I would go to the PPro forum, if I want to think about how PPro fits into the larger world of post production I would rather come here.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Richard Cardonna]

Yes Mr. FIdel Castro look alike. Their are may e edit* users here deapite the rans many ga

ve about fcp back in the first days of fcp. and David Wrath shows up ocasionaly. whatever happened to Sutha Kamal? is Ron Shook Shook still around.?

Richard

[Herb Sevush]

[Richard Cardonna] ” is Ron Shook Shook still around.?”

Haven’t seen a post by him in many years. The last thing I saw he was involved with some sort of low rider bicycle low-carbon footprint alternative (I kid you not, he had a video of himself driving around Chicago with it.) I always thought of him as the Ben Cartwright of the *edit forum (for those of you old enough to have seen Bonanza.)

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Brent Cook]

[Walter Soyka] “If you only want to hear more about using FCPX exclusively, try the FCPX Techniques forum [link]. There’s plenty of pretty high-quality discussion about the software there.”

I definitely do hit up the techniques forum. Good stuff in there.

[Walter Soyka] “This forum is named “FCPX or Not: The Debate,”, so although FCPX is the only NLE in the name, many here argue that everyone else falls under “or not.””

I guess it would be less confusing if the name was more NLE ambiguous. To me “FCPX or Not” implies arguments for or against FCPX, including discussion of other NLE’s but discussed in direct correlation to FCPX, otherwise why have it in the name? Why not have a General NLE forum and a FCPX forum where FCPX news is shared along with whatever other discussion outside of specific techniques?

Anyway…didn’t mean to start something here. I think this has been discussed to death before. The barrage of PP threads kind of annoyed me since FCPX is my NLE of choice right now (remains to be seen if this is a good decision) and as a new editor I’m trying to absorb as much as can specific to that before I learn other software.

[Charlie Austin]

[Brent Cook] “FCPX is my NLE of choice right now (remains to be seen if this is a good decision) and as a new editor I’m trying to absorb as much as can specific to that before I learn other software.”

As an old editor, 😉 I’d suggest learning as much software as you can. X and PP are inexpensive, and even MC is approaching affordability. Not only does it make you more “valuable” as an editor, but it also gives you a truly informed way to make a decision as to what you prefer. Opinions help, but the “opinionaters” may not have the same needs and preferences as you. For me, the more I use other NLE’s, the more I prefer X. Clearly there are opposing views, but my decision is based on actual, real world use of the other options.

At the very least, you should get all the free trials of other apps and get to know them.

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Brett Sherman] “what specific things makes Premiere CS 7 more viable than CS 6?”

In a way i don’t have a very good answer for that – its not so much viability, I just want to edit in it?

the improvements to the timeline and as they say, the finesse of the thing are really pretty major – being able to select a ProRes timeline, with prores preview rendering and pro res export is an awfully big biggie. Just in terms of settling your head that you can execute in that way. Export of a clean PRORES timeline looks to run at about four or five times realtime in a published test – so you know that whole export hit is basically gone.

Also I am way more incentivised to dick around with speedgrade now. like – quite a lot.

there was a dude that adobe interviewed at nab – he was a director screening at sundance – he cut the film in premiere 6 – a lot of films were cut in premiere this year, and when she asked him what he liked about seven he laughed and said he just wanted to get his hands on it – that it was all the little refinements to the timeline more than anything. that he would encounter those refinements every minute of the day editing.

It adds up to some kind of threshold basically – I want to cut in that timeline more than I want to cut in FCP7.
Add in the 64bit performance under CUDA…

It sounds stupid in a way but that timeline just looks like a very nice place to be?

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Walter Soyka]

[Brent Cook] “guess it would be less confusing if the name was more NLE ambiguous. To me “FCPX or Not” implies arguments for or against FCPX, including discussion of other NLE’s but discussed in direct correlation to FCPX, otherwise why have it in the name? Why not have a General NLE forum and a FCPX forum where FCPX news is shared along with whatever other discussion outside of specific techniques?”

As with all things on this forum, there’s even disagreement about what it should be called! 🙂

I do understand your point, but I don’t think the genie will go back in the bottle anytime soon. I think you’ll be stuck with some threads you don’t care to read for some time to come.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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