Call me crazy if you want… but I know an imminent extinction when I see one. :)

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “Amen to that – seriously tho – it really looks good doesn’t it?”

Adobe is working really hard, no questions about that.

I am really excited about the video out of SpeedGrade.

It looks like an FCPX offline for me with an Adobe finish if CS7 is working like I think it will.

Jeremy

[Charlie Austin]

[Brent Cook] “I’m not anti-PP at all (in fact I plan on learning it) but I come here to read about FCPX.”

I agree, and I *own* PP. I think there are a lot of folks on this forum who seem to really need a familiar replacement for FCP “classic”. Now that PP sort of does most of the things classic did, – some better, some at least close – There is a lot of excitement. Once it dies down, maybe all the joy will move over to the PP forums where it belongs. Or not. 🙂

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Walter Soyka]

[Brent Cook] “Really. I’m trying to figure out why all this PP talk is here instead of in the…I don’t know…PP forum perhaps? I’m not anti-PP at all (in fact I plan on learning it) but I come here to read about FCPX.”

Brent, there is some ongoing discussion in the Premiere Pro forum as well.

This forum is named “FCPX or Not: The Debate,”, so although FCPX is the only NLE in the name, many here argue that everyone else falls under “or not.” Avid, Adobe, Autodesk, EditShare — all the NLE developers seem to get some discussion time here. This is about the only place on the COW where software is discussed broadly and comparatively; the other forums tend to be more narrowly focused on the issues of actually using specific pieces of software.

In other words, what may count as noise in other forums is signal here.

Personally, I think that discussions about Premiere are relevant in a forum that exists to compare NLEs.

If you only want to hear more about using FCPX exclusively, try the FCPX Techniques forum [link]. There’s plenty of pretty high-quality discussion about the software there.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

[Herb Sevush]

[Charlie Austin] “There is a lot of excitement. Once it dies down, maybe all the joy will move over to the PP forums where it belongs. Or not. :-)”

The PPro forum is for people who are using PPro, this forum is for those who are thinking about using PPro, or anything else, even X.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Charlie Austin]

[Walter Soyka] “This is about the only place on the COW where software is discussed broadly and comparatively; the other forums tend to be more narrowly focused on the issues of actually using specific pieces of software.”

Good point. And I think folks who were hoping for a replacement for 7’s traditional timeline have a reason to be excited this week.

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Sandeep Sajeev]

It looks like an FCPX offline for me with an Adobe finish if CS7 is working like I think it will.

What are you finishing on at the moment Jeremy? And have you given up on Smoke?

[Joseph W. bourke]

Personally, it’s the ebb and flow of this forum which keeps it interesting. One day, it’s all about FCPX, the next it’s PPro or AVID. I like that I can keep my finger on the pulse of our profession, and see where, at least from a small sample, things are going. I like hearing opinions which differ from my own, and, as a one man shop, find that the ideas being generated here help my decision-making down the road. I’ve been a PPro user for upwards of 4 years now, but I also do animation work for a number of clients who are FCP7 based (still), and are planning on staying right where they are – until, of course, the clock runs out…

Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
Bourke Media
http://www.bourkemedia.com

[Walter Soyka]

[Charlie Austin] “And I think folks who were hoping for a replacement for 7’s traditional timeline have a reason to be excited this week.”

This is a good point — there are a lot of FCP7 refugees here.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Sandeep Sajeev] “What are you finishing on at the moment Jeremy?”

Still using Color if you can believe it, audio out to ProTools.

I like Resolve, and it goes well with FCPX, but I have to use a Blackmagic device.

If there was Thunderbolt on all of my computers, I’d buy a cheap Thunderbolt monitoring device and do it in a heartbeat, but alas, there’s only pesky PCIe for now and those are filled with AJA. 🙂

Finishing in Adobe gets me to all different kinds of tools, including an NLE if I need to make tweaks.

It will be more work to get to the Creative Suite, but I’m hoping I can make it sing.

I have let the notion of Smoke go, yes. It is an amazing application, but it’s not right for what we need. It’s a bit too much compositing, not enough finishing for our particular jobs. Plus, I find the edit operations to be a bit funky, and this is coming from someone who likes funky operations.

Jeremy

[Lance Bachelder]

I haven’t had much of a chance to play with it yet at the show – we have the entire suite in all our stations at the AJA booth but it was crashing constantly on my pod Monday. Audio looks better – way nicer waveforms. Simpply being ably to move a clip up or down a track like FCP7 is tiny but huge in day to day editing… I’ll be testing out some more this afternoon when I get back to the booth.

I was on Speedgrade station all day yesterday with a Tangent Element control surface – it’s MUCH improved – now supports all AJA hardware – and fantastic when paired with Tangent and LOOKLABS pre-sets – I may be convinced to drop Resolve…

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1