BVE Expo in the UK

[Trevor Asquerthian]

[Steve Connor] “[Trevor Asquerthian] “BVE was full of students to be honest. The biggest draw I saw was how to get your content onto YouTube.
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Thursday afternoon is student day I’m afraid.”

Yep, but I went on Tuesday 😉

[Trevor Asquerthian]

[Craig Seeman] “maybe Paltex was the FCPX of linear systems.
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Paltex was when they wimped out and started conforming with the CMX model… the Datatron ST5 had a definite FCPx ring to it (*shudders* as he – almost- remembers the code to make a dissolve)

I did overhear some facility guys boasting about how cheap they picked up a Quad machine… so it can’t have been all students 🙂

[Craig Seeman]

[Trevor Asquerthian] “I did overhear some facility guys boasting about how cheap they picked up a Quad machine”

They paid for it? I was under the impression some facilities will pay you to take one a way just so they can free up their storage space.

[Trevor Asquerthian] “the Datatron ST5 had a definite FCPx ring to it (*shudders* as he – almost- remembers the code to make a dissolve)”

That does bring back memories. Used it with an Aston CG.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Craig Seeman] “So FCPX is the future.”

[Craig Seeman] “[Trevor Asquerthian] “Big places are not going to go Apple in a hurry any time soon.”

I’d agree. That’s why I think it will be young people. Future video post entrepreneurs. It’ll happen by attrition.
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please – I’m being serious here – come on.
you can call narwhales and unicorns until the cows come home.

As currently conceived: FCPX boasts no future entrepreneurs, and exactly no paid market job traction.

it’s an increasingly easy hit this.
where exactly are your entrepreneurs?

FCPX itself is basically mis-cued software, and worse again, facilities – post FCP7 debacle – now completely lack any key mid-term vendor trust in apple.

That is a critical problem craig. Apple have not adressed the madness of the FCP studio kill.
the scale of that was jaw dropping. the simple fact that apple could torch all that in broad daylight with no warning – that everything went – FCP server: that was handling a metric ton of commercial stuff across london, seriously – some of the suite kill was surreal. there was no way Apple were not aware that there were serious systems involved.

FCPX has incredibly difficult issues on multiple levels. It is beyond a joke.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Craig Seeman]

‘cept lots of younguns want to learn it.
It’ll take a bit for some of them to become entrepreneurs.
Some might not have felt the FCS pain.

[Herb Sevush]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “That is a critical problem craig. Apple have not adressed the madness of the FCP studio kill. the scale of that was jaw dropping.”

True that. I know this gets blown off as “grow up, everyone does it” but in point of fact no one else has ever done it at this scale. The impact is still unknown.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Craig Seeman]

I’m not sure how they can fix that except move forward and hope there’s a compelling cost benefit.
Unless one is leaving the OS entirely (the MacPro replacement may be the telling moment for some), given the price, anyone using Adobe can have FCPX sitting around to play with (and I don’t doubt that’s about were it sits for many).

I do think as time goes on there are new kids who didn’t feel the pain. I also think a lot of them are taking a bit of that shiny Apple. That so many want to learn, that the FCPX Techniques forum seems so busy, is an indicator of that.

[Chris Harlan]

[Craig Seeman] “That so many want to learn, “

And, on the other hand, those demos may be full of people who want to take a good hard look before they finally write it off. Who knows.

[Lance Bachelder]

I agree Craig I see real traction happening with FCPX among young filmmakers, far more than Premiere or Avid. Here in LA it’s finally being seen as a legitimate NLE by those who’ve actually checked it out since the Conan “review”. The other evidence to me is the amount of decent plug-ins and FX being released for X vs. other NLE’s – just tons of useful stuff at great prices.

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

[Bernard Newnham]

I went Tuesday and met some of our students there. Any day is student day if they write “freelance” on their badges. I got three tickets sent to me, and one said VIP, so i used that one and got a free bag from Root6 and a coffee. I have no idea why I should be a VIP.

As for the sessions, most sessions are full most of the time – I think FCPX is junk, but I would have watched had there one been on at the time I was nearby. The only session I’ve been to which was nearly empty was the one at IBC 1996 at which I was the main speaker. I was talking about how DV and desktop editing would change the world….

Around the hall, which used to be full of Macs, I saw one iMac and no FCPX. PPro and Avid were what people were running.

This year I hardly bothered with the cameras, as every time I go there are more and more small black machines that look the same but have different numbers on them. Where once there was an Ikegami HL79 and a couple of rivals, now it’s like a consumer show with a new model every week.

If you want to do UAV helicopter filming, there were lots of those. I asked the owner of the biggest if the CAA have taken an interest yet. He mumbled an bit and said no, but the thing is very much big enough to kill you if it falls out of the sky.

Does anyone who went think that it’s gone upmarket? Has someone noticed that not everyone in the UK wants to try and get a hotel in Amsterdam yet again, lovely city that it is?

Bernie