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Nigel Thompson
April 17, 2012 at 11:27 amLOL:
let me know if you do….
You are very right by the way.
I met Grant via email and 2-pop i think it is years ago when he was working with Digital voodoo. back then he was frustrated with their old school way of thinking ….. i actually remember hearing him complaining one time then boom black magic….. really great to see how far they have comeHigh End, Production & Post Production
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Barend Onneweer
April 17, 2012 at 11:32 amWhere do you get that it records a 1280×720 area of the chip? It seems to record a 2432 x 1366 area in RAW, that it scales down to 1920 x 1080 if you record Prores.
If the downsampling is less prone to moire than the Canon 5D this looks like a very interesting little camera.
Barend
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Margus Voll
April 17, 2012 at 11:33 ami mentioned one idea back in the day on Resolve forum and it got made by some time.
It is hard for me to tell if it was driven by my idea or they just have all the ideas worked out by the time i get there.Today we see CUDA computing in Resolve.
Then it seemed like flying to moon with umbrella.This is why i’m so optimistic about BM products as I have always been since my first Decklink.
They evolve and fast.—
Margus
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Will Salley
April 17, 2012 at 2:03 pmMy reply was a bit confusing. I should have stated that the effective imaging area of the chip equates to a 1280×720 frame in terms of optics. In other words, the depth-of-field is back to being equal to a 1/3″ camera. That might not be an issue with many shooters, but it also means, as has been stated earlier, that finding a proper wide-angle lens will be very difficult because of the dreaded conversion factor.
An infinite depth-of-field may not be such a bad thing with this particular camera out of the box, because without an additional monitor of viewfinder, it will take some very good eyesight, and a little luck, to achieve consistent focus.
Don’t get me wrong, I think the camera is very innovative and holds a lot of promise for future revision. The idea of an on-board SSD recording to those formats is a huge benefit. It reminds me of an Apple designed product – very clean design, simple controls, yet elegant. Unfortunately, professional and creative shooters need very precise control and the ability to manipulate optics, and that requires a more complicated camera…and it includes an ability to monitor your image in something close to the resolution to which you’re shooting.
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Ron Dylewski
April 17, 2012 at 5:12 pmAm I missing something or is there really no overcranking?
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Miłosz Koziol
April 17, 2012 at 6:13 pmHow about micro 4/3 lenses? Arent they close enough? Or maybe old Arri 16 mm – you can find some decent ones – does any one will it be possible?
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Shane Betts
April 17, 2012 at 6:25 pmGrant truly is, still, one of the great disruptors in the industry and this camera is one of his most disruptive moves yet. I just wish it had a lens mount more suited to the smaller sensor. Micro 4/3 or Sony NEX would allow you to adapt almost any glass you want to it because of their extremely short flange distance. With an EF mount, the native mount is too far away from the sensor to mount 16mm glass (which would be ideal) on the camera.
Yes, there are a couple of other niggles but this thing delivers something very close to Alexa (OK, with more depth of field) for under $3k. WTF?! He’s going to sell a ton of them despite the lack of wide angle lenses. I just wish he’d got the mount right.
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Barend Onneweer
April 17, 2012 at 7:30 pmThe resolution has nothing to do with the depth of field characteristics. I still don’t see where you get the 1280×720 number. The active area of the chip is 15×8 mm which is slightly larger than a Super16 frame, (much larger than 1/3″) which in the last decades has been more than useful for feature film, documentary and television drama. So although you won’t get the super shallow DoF 5D look from it, the sensor size is very useful for a lot of people.
Unfortunately it looks like lenses for 16mm cameras won’t work on the BM camera so that’s my main gripe.
Barend
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Shane Betts
April 17, 2012 at 9:26 pmNope. That’s the problem right there. They would be ideal but the flange depth of the Canon mount is way to great. Great concept. Mount fail.
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Miłosz Koziol
April 17, 2012 at 9:58 pmCurses – it was too good to be true though… I`m keen on second gen though – just like it was with intesity shuttle – first gen ucompressed 10 bit only but in second you could record with avid codec. I hope it will happen to BMDcam : PL mount or micro 4/3 mount (Nokton F0,95/17,5 mm anyone?)
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