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  • Chris Borjis

    October 3, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    [lucas cheadle] “I’m disappointed in my BluRay HD results so far. The picture looks grainy, like super fine pointillism, A Sunday At The Park?
    I don’t know if it’s something I can control.”

    If it looks good on the timeline and bad on the disc you are darn
    tootin you have control. 🙂

    which compressor preset did you use and what were its settings?

  • Lucas Cheadle

    October 3, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Thanks for the response Chris.
    I’ve tried several methods, but when I do use Compressor it’s set to the default BluRay settings. I also tried varying the bit rates.
    Currently I’m waiting on a Compression job according to Cody Westheimer’s setting suggestions: exporting from timeline w/DVCHD.
    I made a one minute long test and Compressor’s half way through it….
    after nine hours!!! I shutter at the thought of rendering a one hour timeline. This project is a wedding and there’s 3.5 hours of video.

  • Chris Borjis

    October 4, 2008 at 12:05 am

    9 hrs seems way excessive.

    if you have motion estimate set for highest quality you should
    turn it down one setting (best I think it is) it will look
    exactly the same without taking so stinkin long.

  • Doug Mokaren

    October 13, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    From https://blogs.adobe.com/davtechtable/2008/04/apples_compressor_encore_blura.html#more

    Apple’s Compressor MPEG-2 settings.

    Step-by-Step instructions for using Apple’s Compressor v3.0 to
    create Mpeg-2 stream and burn Blu-ray disc using Encore CS3.

    Background Info on MPEG-2 Streams.
    Types of MPEG-2 stream:
    There are three common Mpeg-2 stream types that are used to deliver MPEG-2 encoded video in Compressor(v3.02) :
    • Elementary streams: These streams contain only one Mpeg-2 content and no audio.
    • Transport streams: These streams can contain several Mpeg-2 content channels and associated audio.
    • Program streams: These streams contain only one Mpeg-2 content channel and its associated audio.

    By default, the Compressor Mpeg-2 encoder creates elementary streams. You have to configure the Mpeg-2 encoder to Program streams to create Mpeg-2 files for Blu-ray.

    We did a straight FCP export to .mov file and dropped into Toast 9 with bd plug in, burning to BD-RE. Set it for autoplay – no menu. Got an error at the end of burn, but tried playing the blu ray anyway to see if we were on track. It played, but was choppy. I saw one could burn the bdrm (sorry if I used the wrong folder name) folder in toast, so we’ll try a compressor conversion with the settings above and drop that into toast. Just trying the options to see what works the best.

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 13, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    [Doug Mokaren] “You have to configure the Mpeg-2 encoder to Program streams to create Mpeg-2 files for Blu-ray. “

    Actually you don’t.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

    Read my Blog!

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  • Doug Mokaren

    October 13, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    oh. thanks for filling in the details on your response. I learned a lot.

    I was relaying some info I found from the Adobe blog in response to some previous posters. It’s not my information. I added what we had tried in Toast 9 with bd plug-in and what we’re trying to do. Lot’s of us are in the same predicament in sorting thru blu ray and using this forum to gain some insight and HOPEFULLY an answer to cut thru the trial and error crap.

    I don’t want to run a Windoze app to create a blu ray, whether on a separate platform or in parallels or bootcamp. I just want to do what many of us have done in the past in creating dvds, only now with blu ray disks.

    So the information on streaming mpeg is a load of manure?

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 14, 2008 at 1:09 am

    [Doug Mokaren] “So the information on streaming mpeg is a load of manure? “

    It probably works too, we just don’t do it here, we use the basic elementary streams and it works fine both on Encore and DoStudio.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

    Read my Blog!

    STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!

  • Doug Mokaren

    October 14, 2008 at 1:15 am

    So it’s not true that the Elementary stream is for video only with no audio as stated in the Adobe blog?

    interesting…..

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 14, 2008 at 10:08 am

    [Doug Mokaren] “So it’s not true that the Elementary stream is for video only with no audio as stated in the Adobe blog?”

    There’s no audio on the MPEG-2 elementary stream. Audio is a separate AC-3 file.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

    Read my Blog!

    STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!

  • Lucas Cheadle

    October 14, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    After a couple of weeks of experimentation here is my recipe for BD.
    My project is HDV native. I exported ProResHQ reference QT mov, brought that into Sony Vegas’ DVD Architect Pro. Authored a menu and rendered an .iso file using DVD Architect’s AVC codec then dropped that .iso into Toast 9 and burned a nice looking BD.

    Issues:
    1)original footage was shot on Canon XHA1 HDV with 6bd gain. I think the gain grain really showed up on BD playback. That gain setting had worked fine in the past shooting in HDV and then downconverting to SD.
    2)DVD Architect has a bit rate limit of 28. I would have liked to have toyed with some higher settings
    …otherwise I have delivered a nice BD to a happy client

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