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  • Tim Wilson

    September 12, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    [Shawn Miller] ” I agree with you. :-)”

    I should have mentioned that I was speaking rhetorically, and not thinking I was refuting any of your points. Not at all. I agree with you. Whatever this story ISN’T, what it IS is still amazing.

  • Timothy Auld

    September 12, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    Bad, Tim. You should be banned from the space time continuum.

    Tim

  • Shawn Miller

    September 12, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    [Tim Wilson] “[Shawn Miller] ” I agree with you. :-)”

    I should have mentioned that I was speaking rhetorically, and not thinking I was refuting any of your points. Not at all. I agree with you. Whatever this story ISN’T, what it IS is still amazing.”

    Touché Mr. Wilson, touché. I should have seen that. It looks like we’re agreed on all points then. 🙂

    Shawn

  • David Mathis

    September 13, 2014 at 2:51 am

    [Tim Wilson] “For one, the two products are from different companies. It takes a lot longer than you’d think to sort that sort of thing out. More important though, despite the fact that are some people who need multiple tasks, Media Composer is never going to have Pro Tools “inside,” any more than FCP had Motion “inside” or Premiere jas After Effects “inside.” Merging codebases is hard enough. Merging interfaces is impossible. You’d have to bury things so deep that a modal interface would be the only solution, at which point you sacrifice flexibility and efficiency on all kinds of levels”

    Agreed. Much prefer to have separate applications then one giant one filled with bugs and a nightmare of an interface. Really do not see Resolve and Fusion being merged into one.

    [Tim Wilson]
    Not to diminish the excitement of this. Fusion has always deserved more attention than it has gotten, and more resources than eyeon has been able to put into it. No disrespect intended. Small companies have limits, and nobody is better at pushing those limits than BMD. If BMD invigorates node-based compositing the way that they did color grading with Resolve, then all bets are off…”

    Any chance of a Fusion forum returning? I took a look at the Eyeon website and very interesting learning the software.

    For now I rely on Motion for basic stuff, FCP X for editing and finishing, Resolve for color grading. After seeing the Resolve 11.1 update I am ready to give a try for a rough edit, some very useful features have been have added in. If they develop even further, which is a very strong possibility, then it will serve as a very solid NLE as well.

    I love how Blackmagic Design innovates and very much appreciate the direction they are taking. Really enjoyed the recent firmware update for the Blackmagic Cinema Camera. My thoughts and two cents, whatever it is worth.

  • David Mathis

    September 13, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    I am excited by the news and though my workflow does no call for complex compositing or motion graphics I am curious to know how Fusion would work in areas such as touching photos or other still images. I know this might seem a bit odd but thinking that nodes might have advantages over layer based applications. Curious to know what others think of this approach.

  • Tim Wilson

    September 13, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    [David Mathis] “Any chance of a Fusion forum returning? “

    Absolutely! We were always fans of fusion here at the COW, and at one time had a thriving community for it. We did what we could to feature its use in projects as well.

    I’m really glad that it’s going to have Blackmagic’s energy behind it. They really breathed life into color grading in a way that entirely eclipsed what Color, or for that matter, the first incarnation of Davinci had ever done. It’s going to be fun to see if their acquisition of Fusion redefines the relationship between node-based compositing and the work of hundreds of thousands of artists, instead of a small handful.

    I honestly can’t imagine it displacing After Effects or even other node-based compositing environments like Nuke for anyone already using them, but robust, accessible tools inevitably enrich creative possibilities. I want to see what’s next when Blackmagic lights this one up.

  • Scott Witthaus

    September 15, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    [Shawn Miller] “I’m really interested to see what integration will look like between Resolve and Fusion.”

    That’s an simple one. It was called Avid|DS. And Avid foolishly refused to support it, develop it and market it. Instead they decided to stay firmly in the middle-ground of post. Baffling.

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Shawn Miller

    September 15, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    [Scott Witthaus] “[Shawn Miller] “I’m really interested to see what integration will look like between Resolve and Fusion.”

    That’s an simple one. It was called Avid|DS. And Avid foolishly refused to support it, develop it and market it. Instead they decided to stay firmly in the middle-ground of post. Baffling.”

    That is baffling. I sort of remember the %50 discount on Fusion licenses for DS owners after it was EOL’d (to replace the compositing functionality), but I didn’t know that Avid fell down on the development and marketing side. Hopefully, other application vendors will have better foresight. Looks like it might be a new day for Fusion.

    Shawn

  • David Mathis

    September 15, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    Maybe there will be a “Send To Fusion” function in Resolve, still waiting on the one for Motion.

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  • Walter Soyka

    September 15, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    [David Mathis] “I know this might seem a bit odd but thinking that nodes might have advantages over layer based applications. Curious to know what others think of this approach.”

    I don’t think it’s odd at all. Sometimes the right tool for the job is the “wrong” tool for the job.

    Simon and I had a bit of a discussion around this topic a few months ago:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/69145#69229

    I think that Photoshop’s biggest strength (and greatest liability!) is the immediacy of its tools. I still prefer paint-style touchup work in Photoshop to a nodal compositor (immediacy wins here), but I really dislike actually compositing in Photoshop. I prefer to work procedurally whenever I can, and Photoshop is not built for procedural workflow.

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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