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  • Black bars fill effect

     Luigi Perrotta updated 2 weeks, 1 day ago 4 Members · 11 Posts
  • Luigi Perrotta

    December 28, 2020 at 10:41 pm

    Hello,

    I am playing and learning Vegas 18.

    I have some videos shot awhile ago, they have black bars on the sides. I am trying to mix these videos with videos shot in HD.

    I’ve been playing with the Black bar fill effect, it works fine, it also has a lever to give a zoom effect, but it degrades the original video.

    Did anyone encountered and resolved this problem?

  • Graham Bernard

    December 29, 2020 at 6:53 am

    it also has a lever to give a zoom effect, but it degrades the original video.

    Hi, zoom in on anything, other than a resizable Vector Graphic, and it will degrade, it’s the natural effect of zooming in, same amount of pixels over a larger area. The higher definition you go, the less apparent degradation of the Video. Or are you asking about something else?

  • Steve Rhoden

    December 29, 2020 at 1:50 pm

    The lever to give a zoom effect is gonna make the foreground image looks degraded, as that is expected because it is zooming into the image…. So its not a problem.

  • Luigi Perrotta

    December 29, 2020 at 3:32 pm

    Thank you Steve Rhoden and Graham Bernard.

    I guess I was expecting miracles. When I zoom in with a camera is to bring the image closer and make it clear. I was thinking using the zoom effect would have the same results.

    The bar filler just fills them with colors in the scene, probably it would blend in more if the black bars didn’t have a very defined edge.

    Do guys know, what’s the best render templet to use to fill a flat screen television without any bars at all?

  • Graham Bernard

    December 29, 2020 at 8:00 pm

    I film for the Format it’s gonna end up in. I use Optics to get me Reach.

  • Luigi Perrotta

    December 29, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    I am a musician, somehow a few years ago I was asked to do a show for public access Local Television. The station gave us a little training and I ended up producing a show I didn’t like the results in their studio and I didn’t like having to depend on people to produce the Show. I purchased my own equipment and started videotaping my live performances, my wife was the camerawoman. Before I knew we had an audience! The idea was to make the audience part of the show, everyone wants to be a star!

    I installed a green screen in my basement and having fun with it, but I don’t know the basic of video I am busy making music and never had the time to learn the basic of video, I just set up two cameras and play live, I have mixed results!

    Our Show on Cable is a non profit show, I do it because I like to do it.

    I use a Sony HDR-AX 2000 set rec format 1080/24 as a close up camera I use a small zoom camcorder. I record the sound with a QSC Touch mixer 16

    Edit with Vegas 18 Suite, I render MPG 2 W 720 H 480 16:9 DISPLAY

    The TV channel transmit at 16:9

    I am getting black bars and I don’t know why

    What am I doing wrong? Can anyone help?

    I’ve learned a lot about sound I will be happy to help someone with sound.

    Thank you

  • Mark Suszko

    December 29, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    Hello Luigi. If the station shows your program with bars on the sides, but the program itself is not stretched or distorted, then there is a mis-match in the technical format of your finished and delivery recordings. You will need to make a change in the rendering settings of your editing system. I have no experience editing with Vegas, but I’m sure that at some point in the project settings or rendering settings, you get some options for the frame size and ratio of pixels. The display is 16:9 but your 480 pixel width does not stretch to fill that ratio. Do a very short test project with the mpeg2 settings changed to 1280 x 720 for your screen dimensions, and I hope your problem will go away. Have a great New Year, and success in your next season of shows!!!

  • Luigi Perrotta

    December 30, 2020 at 4:35 pm

    Thank Mark, I tried, Vegas has template in HD with those setting, the results are the same.

  • Mark Suszko

    December 30, 2020 at 5:00 pm

    I have one other idea for you, Luigi:

    MPEG 2 isn’t always wide screen; the default can be SD TV 4×8 screen ratio for old fashioned DVD content. There is a widescreen SD anamorphic mode that converts to 16×9 screen ratio. Maybe try looking for that? If you sent in your files as mpeg4 I don’t think you would have the problem, but I know many producers are at the mercy of the very cheaply-operated local cable stations that don’t always run the most modern tech facilities. I used to have to re-master our high def programs into cropped 4×3 versions for certain cable access channels because of those exact reasons.

  • Luigi Perrotta

    December 30, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    This may be the problem, I start to notice every show has this problem. However, I also see after I render the show it has black bars on the sides.

    I just checked some raw footage I took in front of my green screen, it shows minimal black bars on my flat screen television, however, after I worked it in Sony Vegas and render it the bars are larger. This leads me to believe I am shooting it wrong to start with, second I am rendering it wrong, the Sony video camera has several settings, it’s a job to try them all.

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