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  • Frank Stevn

    October 13, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    Thank you all for your time!

  • John Rofrano

    October 13, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    Did you decide to look into the VideoGuys DIY 10 or buy a pre-build HP Workstation, or ???

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Frank Stevn

    October 14, 2014 at 1:12 am

    It is an important investment.
    I will sleep on it for a few days. I will tell you when I make the decision.
    Thanks again for your time.

  • Stephen Mann

    October 14, 2014 at 3:48 am

    Years ago I hosted a Rendertest database (https://www.mmdv.com/sonyvegas/rendertest, the password is ‘vegasuser’)

    In the same processor family, the processor clock speed ruled, but when the few users with more than the common four cores posted results, the 6 and 8 core processors were the fastest. Mac Pro’s were the next fastest, but the dual-Xeons blew everyone else out of the water.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • John Rofrano

    October 14, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    [Stephen Mann] “Mac Pro’s were the next fastest, but the dual-Xeons blew everyone else out of the water.”

    The Mac Pro’s of that period use dual-Xeons. I believe this is one of the reasons why my 2008 Mac Pro is still quite usable. It has two 4 core Xeon’s for 8 total cores. I rarely see the cores pegged with Vegas Pro. In benchmarks it is slower than my Core i7 6-core (which is to be expected) but for video editing GPU plays a role and it actually is sometimes faster than my 6-core because the ATI Radeon HD 5870 works better in Vegas Pro than my NVIDIA Quadro 4000. I believe the 2010 render test was before Vegas Pro had GPU acceleration so it would be a different story today based on which GPU someone was using so CPU power isn’t the whole story anymore.

    Speaking of GPU power… it should be pointed out that Vegas Pro uses OpenCL for timeline acceleration and ATI cards are faster at OpenCL than NVIDIA so you want an ATI Radeon card to use with Vegas Pro.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Stephen Mann

    October 14, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    Note that the rendertest was based on Vegas 10 – before GPU support. But, I still think that the number of cores is first, followed by processor speed for Vegas bang for the buck.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • John Rofrano

    October 15, 2014 at 1:10 pm

    [Stephen Mann] “But, I still think that the number of cores is first, followed by processor speed for Vegas bang for the buck.”

    I’m not so sure about that. It may be processor speed and then the number of cores. I’ve seen all 8-cores at 20% while my timeline is stuttering to playback the video. Maybe if I had 4 more powerful cores it would be faster? I don’t know. This is the great mystery. Where is the bottleneck? In order to use 8-cores you need to have 8 things you can do in parallel. If cores were more important, my Xeon 8-core 2.8 Ghz (8 x 2.8 = 22.4Ghz total) would be faster than my Core i7 6-core 3.2 Ghz (6 x 3.2 = 19.2Ghz total) but it’s not. Now I realize the architecture of my Xeon and Core i7 is different so maybe this isn’t a far comparison but I still think that processor speed rules over number of cores. Maybe someone has done a benchmark on like architectures that shows this.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Stephen Mann

    October 16, 2014 at 3:27 am

    You may be right, John. The 2010 Rendertest is not really representative of today’s processors. While the dual-Xeon processors blew all others out of the water, they were also the fastest processors. So which was it?

    But that won’t stop me from putting 8-cores in my next PC.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • John Rofrano

    October 16, 2014 at 4:02 am

    [Stephen Mann] “But that won’t stop me from putting 8-cores in my next PC.”

    Without a doubt. Anyone who builds a new PC for video editing today with less than 8 cores is being short sighted IMHO. I’ve had 6 cores for over 2 years now so 8 cores would be the next step up. Like I said, I’m looking for a 12 core Mac Pro as my next upgrade.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Scott Francis

    October 18, 2014 at 3:26 am

    Maybe I am just lucky I do my own builds…The MOST expensive I have ever built for editing was about $1700 and that would have been nowhere near a comparable Mac Pro. Again, just my experience..

    As you have stated later in this thread, it seems no one really knows how Vegas uses processing. Most of us see MAYBE 50% CPU usage with stuttering preview, no clue what SVP is using and when..

    Best

    Xavier (Scott) Francis
    Mind’s Eye Audio/Video Productions

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