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[Andy Neil] “Secondly, as far as sync errors go, don’t you run the same risk in a track based environment?”
There are sync markers that tell you when you’re out of sync in other NLEs. In FCPX, there aren’t. Your audio and video go out of sync, there’s no visual cue in the timeline.
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[Andy Neil] ” First of all, why do you need to break the clips apart? You can open the clips in timeline mode (CMD+SHIFT+O) which will show you all your mono tracks. Then make your adjustments and back out.”
So are you seriously telling me that you find it logical and preferable to open each clip in its own mini-timeline and make adjustments out-of-context with any of the clips around it? 😉
Breaking the clips apart allows you to stay within the timeline and balance levels against other elements, like SFX and music. Or you could just “sent to Soundtrack Pro” 😉 Oops!
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[Michael Hancock] “There are sync markers that tell you when you’re out of sync in other NLEs. In FCPX, there aren’t.”
True. But I consider breaking apart clips as akin to unlinking clips in FCP 7 which, as you know, will not give you sync errors when shifted.
[Oliver Peters] “So are you seriously telling me that you find it logical and preferable to open each clip in its own mini-timeline and make adjustments out-of-context with any of the clips around it? ;-)”
I’m not seriously trying to tell you anything. I’m asking questions. I’m asking because I don’t know your workflow or anyone elses who are lamenting the loss of tracks and I’m trying to understand.
Your point about context in the mix is well-taken, and it shows a deficiency in FCP X. But to me, it doesn’t show a reason to chuck the magnetic timeline in favor of tracks. Personally, I think Apple should develop FCP X so that when you expand the audio in clips by double clicking or with the shortcut, all mono tracks expand allowing you to make individual changes and then collapse it back into the clip.
Then you get to keep the audio locked in sync with the video, as well as the ability to make individual adjustments to the mono layers. All without needed tracks.
Andy
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[Andy Neil] ” I’m asking because I don’t know your workflow or anyone elses who are lamenting the loss of tracks and I’m trying to understand.”
Fair enough. I was just being flip. No offense intended.
[Andy Neil] “it doesn’t show a reason to chuck the magnetic timeline in favor of tracks.”
I wasn’t really arguing against the magnetic timeline per se. Rather against the trackless design. It seems like the trackless design works for video, but breaks down for audio. Having multiple sync audio tracks would still work with the magnetic timeline.
[Andy Neil] “Personally, I think Apple should develop FCP X so that when you expand the audio in clips by double clicking or with the shortcut, all mono tracks expand allowing you to make individual changes and then collapse it back into the clip.”
I agree and quite frankly I thought they had until I actually tested it.
[Andy Neil] “Then you get to keep the audio locked in sync with the video, as well as the ability to make individual adjustments to the mono layers. All without needed tracks.”
Correct, although you are still stuck with the issue that FCP X doesn’t allow audio-only rolling edits.
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[Andy Neil] “I consider breaking apart clips as akin to unlinking clips in FCP 7 which, as you know, will not give you sync errors when shifted.”
Not an error, but soon as you shift audio even one frame out of sync, you see an indication of exactly what the sync slippage is. This essential feature has been around since FCP1. That Apple would leave out something this fundamental speaks volumes of either their priorities or their sloppiness with this release.
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