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Charlie Austin
June 22, 2016 at 7:26 am[Andrew Kimery] “X was no where near good enough on day one to change the trajectory of my whole professional practice, but as you say YMMV.”
X on day one was good enough to make me buy a fresh copy of Media Composer and Dive into Premiere. lol I couldn’t do a thing with it (besides try to figure it out) until 7toX, EDL X, and X2Pro appeared. Thing is, I’m glad It worked out that way. I definitely have a favorite, but the more tools I can use the, uh merrier? 🙂
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Scott Witthaus
June 22, 2016 at 12:42 pm[Bill Davis] “Remember, the whole world all got the exact same information about X at the exact same time.
“And in my opinion (and mine only) X was not ready for the whole world at it’s release. Not dissing X as a software or new concept (it is my workhorse now at the same rate as any other software) but its’ release was a big CF. But even then I saw some really cool things about X. I remember e-mailing my friends working at Avid saying “you better keep an eye on this thing. It’s not ready now, but don’t ignore it…” I think I posted that on the Avid Forums as well.
I don’t know about you all, but I have done a fair bit of beta testing in my career for DS (softimage and Avid) and Media Composer. Those of you who have beta tested know the levels of beta, gold candidates and release candidates. I felt X was a mid beta with so many features missing (from 7) and things not working. So yes, Apple made some big mistakes in EOL’ing a proven software solution and then trying to force a half-baked replacement on us. Free version of 7 with every purchase of X? No, that is a silly idea. But keep selling FCP7 for a year or so while rolling out X would have been a better choice. Maybe better beta test pool? I don’t know…
As for Randy, I respect the hell out of him and I am not dissing his software. I make a living with it and I am thankful he put all the work in that he did. But I do feel it is fine to ask questions about the history of the software and why things were released the way they were. Seems like a fair question to me…of course IMHO….
Scott Witthaus
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Joseph W. bourke
June 22, 2016 at 1:13 pmOK Bill OK – you’re a visionary. And FCPX is not only the best thing since sliced bread – it is the Master Loaf.
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Andrew Kimery
June 22, 2016 at 4:03 pm[Scott Witthaus] “But I do feel it is fine to ask questions about the history of the software and why things were released the way they were. Seems like a fair question to me…of course IMHO….
“I think it’s a fine question too, and my guess is that Apple was feeling the heat from users and didn’t think they could stay radio silent on FCP for another year (or perhaps longer depending on when you think X hit the ‘good enough to launch’ point). The takeover of the NAB Supermeet at the last minute always struck me as a desperation move to try and reassure users that a new FCP was almost here and that was only a few months before the launch. If they felt enough pressure to do that I can’t imagine them keeping it secret for another year as they fleshed out development.
I certainly think if the version of X from 2013 launched in 2011 it would have gone much better, but Apple couldn’t afford to wait until 2013 to get X out the door. Releasing it as a beta might have been another way to temper expectations, but that doesn’t seem like a very Apple thing to do.
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Steve Connor
June 22, 2016 at 4:16 pm[Scott Witthaus] “Not dissing X as a software or new concept (it is my workhorse now at the same rate as any other software)”
I was being sarcastic with the “dissing” comment 🙂 Everyone knows you’re an FCPX advocate, I was a little surprised that Bill jumped on your post so hard!
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Bill Davis
June 22, 2016 at 9:05 pm[Joseph W. Bourke] “OK Bill OK – you’re a visionary. And FCPX is not only the best thing since sliced bread – it is the Master Loaf.”
Damn.
Finally FCP X gets some praise in the group –
and it centers on BREAD!?!
At a time legions are regularly imagining every bellyache is the result of the evils of Gluten?Figures.
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Steve Connor
June 22, 2016 at 9:12 pm[Bill Davis] “Finally FCP X gets some praise in the group –
and it centers on BREAD!?! “As long as it’s not a sliced loaf, too much like tracks!
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Scott Witthaus
June 22, 2016 at 11:47 pm[Walter Soyka] ” Imagine what DS could have been if it had gotten the attention and resources it needed.
“Tell me about it!
Scott Witthaus
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Scott Witthaus
June 22, 2016 at 11:55 pm[Bill Davis] “X was plenty good enough on day one to change the trajectory of my whole professional practice.
“I saw plenty of potential on day one…but I kept my work on 7 for a good long time.
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter
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