BCC 8 Wild Cards for Sony Vegas Pro

[Joe Mantaratz]

Update:

John I downloaded the latest NVIDIA drivers…no help.
With only a 3×3 array and SD footage all matched to project the results were the same. Jittery at half preview and just not fluid at all.

Could the problem reside with the Mother board installation or in the bios? The reason I am asking is in the devices tab there are question marks under Other Devices. Also the sound display constantly flickers as if there is an IRQ conflict but the audio plays fine. My thinking was that NVIDA was competing for the sound so I disabled it ability since I don’t use it for that purpose. No help there either.

You and I have basically the same system I thought you may be able to shed some insight. Sorry I am grasping at straws here for a solution and I am not a novice builder but also not an expert.
Clean system, followed specs, all new software fresh install and still problems. Yep like Mac for the lack of those issues for the most part. But here I am yet again.

[John Rofrano]

Sorry I have to ask this basic question but did you apply the Intel Chipset drivers after you installed your OS? I’m asking because of all the unknown devices in your Device Manager. Try downloading the latest Intel Chipset drivers for your motherboard and re-apply them. That’s the only thing I can think of. You shouldn’t have all those unknown devices. Something is definitely wrong there.

~jr

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[Joe Mantaratz]

I will go and check and get back to you, the drivers for the chipset should be with the install CD that came with the board. Can’t see how I missed that but who knows at this point.
Almost make me want to start from scarth again….almost.

I had to flash the bios for the board to recognize the CPU since the board was in production before the CPU.

[John Rofrano]

[Joe Mantaratz] “I had to flash the bios for the board to recognize the CPU since the board was in production before the CPU.”

I would download the chipset drivers at the same level as the BIOS. Quite often a BIOS will require a specific chipset driver so make sure that these match. There shouldn’t be any unknown devices.

~jr

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[Joe Mantaratz]

John, I spent most of the day installing drivers and testing. When all is said and done I finally have the device manager showing everything as it should be. No more unknown devices.

I also downloaded the latest drivers for the video card but that did not help issue with the Wild Card FX running poorly. Not sure where to turn from here for a solution as it makes little sense. Surely there must be something I am missing I just cant figure it out.
As stated before there is nothing on this machine that is not for editing and basic operation. Is there something I can send you to look deeper into this that you can think of?

As a side note to all of this I found out that although I opted out completely of Windows Update it still somehow was able to download a HOTFIX which would cause my IE to crash and the audio in videos such as YouTube to start, stop then cease to function. What was in this gem of a hotfix I have no idea but every couple of days it would reinstall iteself with no notice. Thankfully I routinely create restore points. With all the drivers now correct it remains to be seen if it will cause an issue again. Here I was chasing possible Flash issues and conflicts but at the end of the day I still don’t know if it is really stable now. Time will tell.

I’m also not clear on why the Video card GPU acceleration needs to be turned off for SVP to function properly. I’ve read the threads as to it being problematic and Vegas not using the GPU for rendering but what about the intergration of RED and BCC while editing?
Tried selecting it on and off but it makes no difference at all.

Thanks as always for all your help.

[John Rofrano]

[Joe Mantaratz] “As a side note to all of this I found out that although I opted out completely of Windows Update it still somehow was able to download a HOTFIX which would cause my IE to crash and the audio in videos such as YouTube to start, stop then cease to function.”

Microsoft has trashed by machines with their updates more than once. I have them set to download but not install. This way it thinks it’s doing something but I never apply them until after I have done my monthly full backup. This way if something goes wrong, I can restore from my last backup. Maybe now that all of your devices have drivers these updates might work. It’s bad to install a single hotfix if the rest of your system is out of date. I would install all updates at this point to get your system current. Windows is a virus magnet and not having patches for the 1000’s of security vulnerabilities on Windows is dangerous living. (Another reason why i use Mac)

[Joe Mantaratz] “I’m also not clear on why the Video card GPU acceleration needs to be turned off for SVP to function properly.”

That should not be. I had to do this with the 330.0 drivers for my Quadro 4000 card but I’ve had the GPU acceleration enabled with the 331.82 drivers and it’s working fine for me. It seems to be very problematic with gamer cards like the GeForce series but it’s pretty stable with Quadro cards.

[Joe Mantaratz] “I’ve read the threads as to it being problematic and Vegas not using the GPU for rendering but what about the integration of RED and BCC while editing?”

RED and BCC are unaffected by this setting. RED and BCC use OpenGL which has nothing to do with the Vegas GPU acceleration which only affects Sony’s plug-ins and timeline playback. You can safely turn off GPU acceleration in Vegas Pro and RED and BCC will continue to use OpenGL acceleration. Another reason to use Quadro cards because the OpenGL support is usually better in Quadro drivers because the CAD programs that the Quadro is targeted for use OpenGL but games don’t use this often so game cards have minimal support for OpenGL.

~jr

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[Joe Mantaratz]

Ah John so I though also was the case with not letting them install but then I found a little gem of a disclosure that says it may install them anyway when you check for updates. From day one I have always had the setting to never check or download updates and then after all the trouble I found that info.

Here is how it reads from the privacy statement

Choice and control
Update Services are turned on if you choose one of the following settings: (a) install updates automatically; (b) download updates but let me choose whether to install them; or (c) check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them. The Windows Update service is turned on and set to “Install updates automatically” when you choose the express settings during Windows setup.

If you turn on the Update Services, regardless of which setting you have chosen, required updates to some components of the service will be downloaded and installed automatically without further notice to you.

How is that for a gem?

If you would prefer not to receive required updates, turn off the Update Services.

You can also choose whether to check for or automatically install Important and Recommended updates for your computer or Important updates only. Optional updates are never installed automatically. To change your Update Services settings after Windows setup:

It also knocked out my Blue RAY Burner and had to reload the drivers for that. If Sony would make a Mac version to I would leave in a heartbeat. So I am not really eager to allow it to download all the latest updates and have to start all over agin with fixing everything else. But maybe I will just have to start from scratch. Will see…

[John Rofrano]

[Joe Mantaratz] “If you turn on the Update Services, regardless of which setting you have chosen, required updates to some components of the service will be downloaded and installed automatically without further notice to you.”

Wow, i didn’t realize that. You know, I’m having a problem now with Excel and QuickTime taking forever to load all of sudden and I didn’t apply any updates. Maybe Microsoft snuck one in without my consent? I’m going to have to turn updates off completely then. The last thing I needs is Microsoft messing up my system again.

[Joe Mantaratz] “If Sony would make a Mac version to I would leave in a heartbeat.”

Me too. I’m really hoping that Sony is working on a Mac version for Vegas Pro like they did for Sound Forge.

~jr

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[Joe Mantaratz]

It was a shocker to me as well and the odd thing is those updates do not show up under installed programs it shows up only under the WINDOWS UPDATE/VIEW UPDATE HISTORY.

Just ck’d mine and yet again this one hotfix continuously installs itself regardless of what I do. Here is the hotfix that causes all the trouble, bet you have it as well. Remember I have my settings to never download nor to ck…well as you can see by Microsofts own statements they will do as they wish. So I may have to never allow this system again to see the internet. What a sham indeed.

Hotfix for Windows (KB2505454)

Installation date: ‎12/‎29/‎2013 7:15 PM

Installation status: Successful

Update type: Important

Fix for KB2505454

[Joe Mantaratz]

Sorry I am coming back to this at such a late date but I wanted to update you and get your thoughts on my persistent issue. Wild cards FX works for me but still runs very slowly.

What I did notice is the sound of the media drive being accessed intensely with only the slightest of timeline cursor movement. My Media drive is a Velociraptor 1GB 10000 RPM.

Don’t know why I never paid attention to it before but it actually sounds like the media has lost focus and is constantly being reloaded although I have not changed the top level window to another program.
(Side note:SUPER FETCH has been turned off)

It only seems to do it with this FX and I have not experimented in depth with others at this point.

This is my last ditch effort before I do a reinstall of all my software.

Thanks John as always for all the assitance