AVID Presentation Thurs at KeyCode – the natives were restless.

[Andy Patterson]

[Neil Sadwelkar] “Way back in 2003, while writing for a magazine called ‘Misenscene’, in India, I got a review system of Pinnacle Liquid. This was sold in India by local Pinnacle dealers, as a card with the Liquid software. Where the software would only work with the card installed. Inside any compatible PC.”

It would work without the card. In order for Liquid to have I/O options you did have to buy the Pinnacle Graphics card which was a modified ATI All In One card. It was later replaced by a USB 2.0 breakout box. Much better option. I had forgot about that. Thanks for posting.

[Neil Sadwelkar] “Having used it then while doing demos, I can attest to the fact that it was revolutionary in the way it handled compressed media. “

I am glad you got to use it first hand. Liquid Edition had GPU acceleration and background rendering. Background rendering was awesome when people had to deliver back to tape. Also if you had dual Xeon CPUs you might want to use the CPU effects. If you have one 3.2 GHZ Pentium 4 and a $280.00 graphics card you might want to opt to use more GPU effects. It was really cool the way you could opt to use GPU or CPU effects. Liquid Edition could edit HD when no other systems could. It left Avid, FCP, Premiere Pro and Edius in the dust. I used to use Edius. Edius was touted as the most powerful real-time system until Pinnacles Liquid Edition was released.

[Neil Sadwelkar] “Today, 2017, FCP 7 is waning away, Prem Pro is emerging as its replacement for TV, while FCP X rules in the web video market, while Avid MC still has a stubborn but minuscule and shrinking set of ‘pro’ editors.”

Avid should have pushed Liquid into the studios. Just think of where Liquid would be today if it were still being developed.

[Oliver Peters]

Some additional thoughts in Scott Simmons’ PVC column:

https://www.provideocoalition.com/can-watch-archive-askavid-evening-avid-event/

– Oliver

Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

[Scott Thomas]

Is there any part of the Pinnacle Systems broadcast line still around? DVExcel? That production switcher they released?

Deko begat AVG and was killed before it was released I believe. They more recently bought Orad, and that is the current offering. That reminds me… I saw Deko when it was still part of Grass Valley / Dubner and was a VESA card set for a Windows NT system in 1994. It truly was the descendent of the Dubner CG line.

I know MediaStream is gone. Thunder was still being supported when I last contacted Avid… many, many years ago. Maybe they have parts for a Flash Graphics if I need it?

[Eric Santiago]

[Oliver Peters] “Yes and no. Depends on which market you’re talking about
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From a simple man’s perspective, the user interface is still the one thing that baffles me.

I came from FCP legacy and got on Avid MC back in 98 and to date, the stupid things it does is still an issue.

[Greg Janza]

[Eric Santiago] “From a simple man’s perspective, the user interface is still the one thing that baffles me.”

Preferences for NLE’s often can be determined by what NLE you used to learn the craft. I established my career on Avid and through years of usage the Avid interface became second nature so when I then moved to FCP it was quite frustrating because FCP seemed like a poor stepchild to Avid. But over time you come to appreciate the positives of each NLE since there’s no going back.

I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
– Orson Welles

[Eric Santiago]

[greg janza] “Preferences for NLE’s often can be determined by what NLE you used to learn the craft.”

Actually, I am very proficient with the interface.

I was referring to the fact that the windows to date still act up and where it doesn’t save the layout properly.
I noticed the same issue on the PC side (just recently).