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Avid crossgrade comparison
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Scary thing for us is we are all still Snow Leopard and cautious to move headlong into Lion (then Mountain Lion?). What is the future of the MacOS and how it relates to these high end editing packages? How about plug ins? Compatibility?
I have 6 MacPro systems with Kona cards all running Snow Leopard and FCP 7. Dangerous waters ahead….
But I’m an old AVID guy so it is tempting to go back to my roots…assuming they will be around for a while.
Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media Inc.
Video Production, Post, Studio Sound Stage
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[Shane Ross] “I’m curious why Motion was added to this list. There’s nothing comparable in Avid MC or Symphony.”
Shane, I don’t know how you use Motion, but for me the combo of Animatte and Red (AvidFX) offer quite an overlap with Motion.
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And that seems to the the pattern.
When you used to work on Avid, and then go back to Avid, you find a nicely updated package with an adjusted price, and a modicum of familiarity.
If Avid would have been price competitive during The Legend of FCP™ chapter, would you be here today?
Just curious.
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[Shane Ross] “I’m curious why Motion was added to this list. There’s nothing comparable in Avid MC or Symphony.”
As Chris pointed out – AvidFX. Not necessarily a direct equivalent, but it adds advanced motion graphics and compositing features, plus a lot more effects filters into the MC environment. It also has a big leg up in that it’s integrated within the application. Note that “send to Motion” was lost with X.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Jeremy Garchow] “If Avid would have been price competitive during The Legend of FCP™ chapter, would you be here today?”
That’s a good point. Speaking from my own experience, I still prefer the versatility and editing experience of working in FCP7 to that of MC, X or PPro.
I contend that if Apple sold off the FCP/FCS package to someone else, who developed it into a 64-bit app (with cleaned-up cosmetics, but no changes to the functionality and user experience) – that they would lead the marketplace over ALL NLEs.
Ain’t ever gonna happen 😉
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Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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Ah, yes. I forgot about the Boris Red Avid FX. I never used it, still don’t. I can’t grasp it.
I used Motion for making particles, moves on stills, titles,
Shane
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[Oliver Peters] “[Jeremy Garchow] “If Avid would have been price competitive during The Legend of FCP™ chapter, would you be here today?”
That’s a good point. Speaking from my own experience, I still prefer the versatility and editing experience of working in FCP7 to that of MC, X or PPro.
I contend that if Apple sold off the FCP/FCS package to someone else, who developed it into a 64-bit app (with cleaned-up cosmetics, but no changes to the functionality and user experience) – that they would lead the marketplace over ALL NLEs.
Ain’t ever gonna happen ;-)”
I totally agree with Oliver on this. I’m not returning to Avid in the sense that it once was my home. I used to use it some, but my own early NLE machines were Montage, D/Vision (Edit*), and Speed Razor. I’ve never regarded Avid as the mothership; it was just another NLE that I had to learn to use, and I have long resented the mistaken cosmology that many Avid-only folk share, thinking that they, alone, were present at the birth of the Universe.
FCP has never been, for me, a poor man’s Avid. I saw it as the best, most flexible editing software ever available. If it had a future, I’d still see it that way. I chose it–in fact, I switched platforms for it–because I really liked it, not because it was an affordable, near-Avid experience.
That’s not to say that there aren’t elements of MC or Premiere that I find superior to Legacy. Keyboard trimming is exceptional on the MC, as is its binning logic and structure; I really like that the bin is the basic structure level and not the project. Premiere has an interface that’s even more fluid as Legacy, which bugs some, but thrills me.
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[Chris Harlan] “I chose it–in fact, I switched platforms for it–because I really liked it, not because it was an affordable, near-Avid experience. “
When did you switch completely to using FCP for ALL of your projects?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “[Chris Harlan] “I chose it–in fact, I switched platforms for it–because I really liked it, not because it was an affordable, near-Avid experience. ”
When did you switch completely to using FCP for ALL of your projects?
“Hard to say; there was a bit of a crossfade. I think I bought my first Decklink/G5 combo in 2004. I’d been dabbling with FCP for 2 or 3 years previously, but in no way exclusively. I was probably all FCP by 2006, though I would still occasionally sit at other machines.
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So Final Cut Studio 1 or there abouts?
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