Automatic Duck is FREEEEE!!!

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Pedro de la Fuente] “Shot on Canon 5d mk2 and audio recorded on Tascam Dr100. Working with the H264.”

Yep, interesting. So those clips literally have no tc track, which is why AD might be chokeing on them.

I’ll have to do some testing.

Simon? Do you have tc?

[Simon Ubsdell]

[Jeremy Garchow] “Simon? Do you have tc?”

Yes, the material is was testing with all has TC. I am finding that detaching any audio creates havoc with the AAF export – I’ll be doing some tests with OMF to see if there’s a difference.

Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
http://www.tokyo-uk.com

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Simon Ubsdell] “Yes, the material is was testing with all has TC. I am finding that detaching any audio creates havoc with the AAF export – I’ll be doing some tests with OMF to see if there’s a difference.”

Cool. Thanks for that.

[Pedro De la fuente]

Hmmm, interesting and very useful finding. Would like to know how to overcome that since my main workflow involves Hdslr and external recorders.

Interesting fact is that all the sound fx and music don’t slip, do they have tc?

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[Pedro de la Fuente] “Interesting fact is that all the sound fx and music don’t slip, do they have tc?”

BWF can carry tc.

h264 movies from DSLR are literally absent of a tc track. I use a tool from Video Tool Shed that will add tc for the THM files called QT Change: https://www.videotoolshed.com/product/42/qtchange

I can only use this in programs outside of FCP7 though as if I did this with FCP7, it broke log and transfer.

But it doesn’t sound like this is the issue after Simon wrote back.

Jeremy

[Simon Ubsdell]

Some points I think I have discovered about Automatic Duck PEFCP 5.0, exprting from FCPX and importing into ProTools:

1) An H.264 source clip with embedded audio (but no TC) behaved exactly as it should, even with detached audio.

2) A ProRes (4444) source clip with 8 audio tracks (all from an HDCamSR master, not synced separately, and obviously with TC) shows up the issue with detaching audio – the non-detached clips behae OK (but see below), the detached clips come up with a completely incorrect result.

3) This same ProRes clip shows up other issues as well. In the Inspector I deselected all the audio apart from the stereo mix on tracks 1+2 and used this to edit with. Despite this 5 (mono) tracks of audio come through on the export.

4) On the other hand, the detached audio clips (using the same editing method) come through as one single mono audio clip.

5) A further non-TC audio source behaved differently again – clips that were edited into the primary storyline came through as expected, but those that were only connected didn’t come through at all (unlike item 4).

6) I can see no difference between OMF and AAF so the problem doesn’t seem to reside there.

I know it sounds like I’m looking a gift horse in the mouth here but it looks as though a lot more careful experimentation is needed before using AD under real conditions.

Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
http://www.tokyo-uk.com

[Jeremy Garchow]

Great to know. Thanks, Simon.

Jeremy

[Pedro De la fuente]

Yes, great info Simon. Hopefully it will only get better for FCPX.

Thanks

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[David Lawrence]

[Pedro de la Fuente] “Yes, great info Simon. Hopefully it will only get better for FCPX.”

Not to rain on this parade, I think it’s awesome that AD is free. But if it’s having problems with FCPX now, I doubt it will get any better in the future. It’s EOL at this point:

Because we are so busy with these new projects we cannot provide the same level of support for our plug-ins that we used to, therefore we can’t in good conscience charge money for them. But we don’t want our popular tools to go unused if they are still useful to people. Therefore we have decided to make them available at no charge. Enjoy!

Thank you for the memories, we’ll see you around.

– Wes Plate & Harry Plate, co-founders of Automatic Duck

Kudos to the Plates for their generosity, but don’t count on it getting better. Someone else will need to pick up the ball moving forward.

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