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  • Steve Connor

    January 2, 2015 at 3:33 pm

    [John Rofrano] “[Daniel Frome] “So what if we don’t own motion? Can’t do this trick?”
    Yes you can. You don’t need Motion to use Motion Templates in FCP X. It’s part of the built-in capabilities of FCP X.”

    Yes, and it does crossfades, linear, s-curve or +3,-3 db, it’s very simple to set up a 3 frame crossfade and copy it to all your edits.

    Big downsides are that you can’t use it if you have existing transitions on the video clips and doesn’t work on split audio!

  • Herb Sevush

    January 2, 2015 at 3:38 pm

    [Steve Connor] “Big downsides are that you can’t use it if you have existing transitions on the video clips and doesn’t work on split audio!”

    Yeah, I guess you cold call that a big downside. As in, unusable in all but the simplest instances.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Bret Williams

    January 2, 2015 at 3:46 pm

    I think you’re not realizing that an audio cross fade is already applied to the audio with ANY transition, just like any NLE where the audio and video are connected. You have to go out of the way to not have an audio cross fade on a transition.

    I don’t know why they use the gap clip. I’ve never done that and never had a need to. But it’s just like any number of tricks or workarounds found in any NLE.

    When I first got trained on Avid in 1996, step one was to insert an hour of black so you could work on the timeline anywhere you want as overwrites. That seemed pretty silly, by it was what everyone did as a first step in an edit.

  • Herb Sevush

    January 2, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    [Bret Williams] “I think you’re not realizing that an audio cross fade is already applied to the audio with ANY transition, just like any NLE where the audio and video are connected. You have to go out of the way to not have an audio cross fade on a transition.”

    First, most of my video doesn’t have transitions but most of my audio does, so the fact that audio transitions are included with my 2 dozen video transitions does not help me with my 300 audio edits. Next comes the fact that I don’t want my audio transitions tied into a decision I make about the video, which is why I always untether my audio from my video in any NLE I use.

    As to laying black down with Avid –well that kind of stupidity is why I never cut with Avid either. I used to lay down black basic when doing linear on-line editing, I would hope that we have advanced somewhat in the last few decades. Apparently not.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • James Ewart

    January 2, 2015 at 4:02 pm

    Speaking of room tone that’s one of the features that looks really cool to me about RX4. It “finds” it behind other speech and inserts it where you need it.

    Only because so few of the wave of young turks seem to know what a buzz track is any more.

  • James Ewart

    January 2, 2015 at 4:04 pm

    Herb what is your plan then?

    Adobe?

  • John Pale

    January 2, 2015 at 4:12 pm

    I think you have to remember that in 1996, we were all still trying to figure out what a editors required in an NLE and how to make it all understandable to people accustomed to actual physical film editing as well as those who had worked in a linear VTR edit bay. Avid was more geared toward film editors initially, so the whole concept of “Filler” was perfectly sensible to many. It was always possible to edit effectively and efficiently on Avid without doing crazy things like adding an hour of black to your timeline or, trust me, it would not have become the dominant NLE in Film and Broadcast. Over time, Avid has added the ability to bypass the whole Filler concept without alienating long time users.

    As Herb stated, I think we’ve come a long way since 1996 and expecting to be able to do an audio cross fade without a workaround or 3rd party plugin is not unreasonable.

  • James Ewart

    January 2, 2015 at 4:24 pm

    For sure I remember laying an hour of black down on lo band UMatic edits.

    Can one speculate as to what Apple would not have included some of the basic things like audio only and also make favourites effect so that one has 3,4,6,12 frame choose from. (I have now found a way of creating these but it’s not nearly as simple to do as in Legacy).

    With audio only edits is it possible that they missed something very simple and that it’s too late for them to put it right now and that for some technical reason it’s impossible? Because we are about 4 years down the line now and it hasn’t happened yet. There must be a reason.

  • Herb Sevush

    January 2, 2015 at 4:31 pm

    [James Ewart] “Herb what is your plan then?

    Adobe?”

    Yes, I switched over to Ppro last spring. Like every system it has it’s plus and minuses, but overall I’m happy with it. For me the biggest pluses are in it’s handling of audio – the track mixer is great and the ability to send to audition for audio repair with the spectrum analyzer has been an incredible help for the work I do. I don’t like the subscription model, but for now Adobe is the best place for me.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Charlie Austin

    January 2, 2015 at 4:59 pm

    [Herb Sevush] ” which is why I always untether my audio from my video in any NLE I use.

    Well, in that case you can apply audio transitions just like any other NLE.

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