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  • Chris Smith

    August 3, 2005 at 9:27 pm

    First of all, Max is a great app, but I want to personally push Cinema 4D instead. It is fantastic.

    Of course I don’t know too much about the whys and whats of his work, but I did spend a while reading online articles about him. From what I can tell, he does them in 3D because it easily allows the text to be manipulated whithin the 3d world. For example, it occludes when it should, it gets displaced behind objects with displacement, etc. Can you do this in AE? Yes, albeit with a lot more work on your part to render out a bunch of passes from 3D to make sure it all composites correctly.

    Every once in a while you’ll see in his work, normal flat text layed over the whole animation and not in the same perspective of the rest of the work. It is my understanding that that is done in AE.

    With a lot of thought and preperation, you can do 3D in a 2D world and vice versa, but there is clearly an advantage to the person that uses the strength of both and doesn’t try to cut a steak with a spoon.

    Like Steve pointed out, you can get an old version of C4D for $99 from Maxon. Since a lot of what Joost does is an extension of his creativity and artistic vision and less from odd technical tricks, you could probably do almost anything on his site with that $99 version of C4D. Not to mention the wealth of free or damn near free plug-ins available for it.

    my .02

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

  • Isaac

    August 3, 2005 at 10:09 pm

    where can i get the cinema 4d when i search it is giving me version 9… does anyone have a link

    Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed.

  • Steve Roberts

    August 3, 2005 at 10:34 pm

    I lost the link. Call Maxon’s customer support. They’re quite friendly.

    Steve

  • Mcvideo

    August 4, 2005 at 12:57 pm

    isaac

    Here is one of two contact info i came across on the net.

    566 St. Charles Drive, Suite 2
    Thousand Oaks, CA 91360
    Toll Free: 877-2ANIMATE
    805-494-0718
    Fax 805-494-0719
    info-usa@maxon.net

    Steve / Chris

    How hard it it to learn the 3d world?

  • Chris Smith

    August 4, 2005 at 3:13 pm

    [mcvideo] “How hard it it to learn the 3d world?”

    I guess it depends on your expectations. There are so many areas of 3D that it seems few people become experts at all of it. For example I cannot and will not model anything more complicated than basic shapes. It’s confusing and boring to me. But ask someone else and that is their passion. If you just wanted to animate some objects here and there, than it’s not too much different than AE. If you just want to do motion graphics where you treat it like an extended AE with different functionality, I don’t think it’s hard at all, quite rewarding really. But if you are expecting to make a Pixar film than it will seem insurmountably hard.

    It also depends on the software. Maya took me quite a while to get a good flow going (like a few years). C4D took me 3 days to get through the ref manual then I could sing on it because it’s so elegantly designed.

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

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