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Apple’s Mac business plan
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[Herb Sevush] “I know there are ways to work around many of X’s current limitations, but why should an editor have to “work around” functions that every other pro NLE on the market includes as basic? You are undermining all the speed benefits X gives you with that sort of workflow, “
[Herb Sevush] “This whole thread was started by bill claiming X was ready”That’s why I posted elsewhere the different definitions of “ready.” For some it means, can be used right now with some workarounds. In other words one isn’t locked out for using it for such purposes. I’m not saying that’s the right definition of “ready” since that depends on what we’re willing to tolerate and how much additional time it takes.
The reason why I mentioned Resolve Lite was just to make clear that there’s a method that ameliorates the cost issue on doing an external monitor QC pass. That the pass is in a program that can tweak such things if it’s needed certainly isn’t a disadvantage especially if it offers more control that FCPX’s built in color correction. Of course if you need a full grade than Resolve makes sense as a matter of course in any workflow but if you’re just doing a QC check and making adjustments Resolve Lite may be a very reasonable solution for both external monitor check and adjustments.
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[Craig Seeman] ” if you’re just doing a QC check and making adjustments Resolve Lite may be a very reasonable solution for both external monitor check and adjustments.”
Not to beat a dead horse, but if it’s such a reasonable solution then why am I not tempted to use it while working in Legacy, or PPro or Avid or Edius or …
It’s a solution made reasonable only by X’s current limitations, limitations acknowledged by Apple as they assure everyone they will fix this for the next upgrade. If they didn’t perceive it as a problem then why have they announced they are fixing it. If Apple can acknowledge this, why can’t you?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “Not to beat a dead horse, but if it’s such a reasonable solution then why am I not tempted to use it while working in Legacy, or PPro or Avid or Edius or …”
Because you don’t like to work that way. It’s certainly a reasonable way to work. Granted it’s not Color, which was included with FCP Legacy but it’s free and sending to a grading tool is a very common workflow especially if you’re delivering for broadcast.
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[Gerald Baria] “FCPX -> FCPXML -> DaVinci Resolve . Does this doesnt solve that? And if the argument is its not thru FCPX-only, does anyone here actually cc with Premiere Prto’s built in color corrector? Or AVIDs? Or any other major NLE(are there others)? I do believe if your really serious about color correction, and your’re in a big budget production house for movies or broadcast you would have to use a third party software for it. Which just has been solve with Resolves playing nice with FCPXML. On which you can color correct..on a proper monitor..so….”
Completely unresponsive to my question gerald. But, it was a nice try to redirect away from Bill’s silly statements.
However, in response to your question, yes, most, if not all, of the people who are the primary targets of FCPX, do in fact use the color correction capabilities within their respective NLEs. It’s primarily the high-end users, who you personally have discounted over and over here as “old people resistant to change” who actually use tools such as Resolve. But, since you’re a chemical engineer by trade, it’s understandable that you aren’t completely clear about ongoings in this industry.
If it’s any consolation to you, I’m not very up to date on the chemical industry. So there, we’re more or less even, except for that fact that I don’t post on forums catering to that industry, putting others down and trying to sound supremely knowledgeable.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing “The Whale” to the Big Screen:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-2-MikeParfitandSuzanneChisholm/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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[David Roth Weiss] “But, since you’re a chemical engineer by trade, it’s understandable that you aren’t completely clear about ongoings in this industry.
If it’s any consolation to you, I’m not very up to date on the chemical industry. So there, we’re more or less even, except for that fact that I don’t post on forums catering to that industry, putting others down and trying to sound supremely knowledgeable.”
David, why do you have to keep lowering yourself to personal comments like this?
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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[Steve Connor] “David, why do you have to keep lowering yourself to personal comments like this?”
Be specific Steve. Stop the BS generalizing. Is there even one word I wrote that is untrue?
Honestly Steve, you know, you needn’t come to the defense of everyone on your side of these matters every time you see an opening, even when there’s nothing of any substance to defend. That just dilutes your ongoing message.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing “The Whale” to the Big Screen:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-2-MikeParfitandSuzanneChisholm/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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[David Roth Weiss] “Be specific Steve. Stop the BS generalizing. Is there even one word I wrote that is untrue?
Honestly Steve, you know, you needn’t come to the defense of everyone on your side of these matters every time you see an opening, even when there’s nothing of any substance to defend. That just dilutes your ongoing message.
“David, I’m not the only person on here who doesn’t like your regular habit of trying to demean other peoples opinions based on their professional position, if anything it dilutes your ongoing message more than mine.
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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[Steve Connor] “David, I’m not the only person on here who doesn’t like your regular habit of trying to demean other peoples opinions based on their professional position”
Steve –
You might not be the only person, but then again you might. I didn’t see where David was out of line, especially on this thread, where I get called a Luddite on a regular basis. It isn’t demeaning to call someone a chemical engineer – at least not the last time I looked.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “You might not be the only person, but then again you might. I didn’t see where David was out of line, especially on this thread, where I get called a Luddite on a regular basis. It isn’t demeaning to call someone a chemical engineer – at least not the last time I looked.
“The comment was:
“But, since you’re a chemical engineer by trade, it’s understandable that you aren’t completely clear about ongoings in this industry.
If it’s any consolation to you, I’m not very up to date on the chemical industry. So there, we’re more or less even, except for that fact that I don’t post on forums catering to that industry, putting others down and trying to sound supremely knowledgeable.”
-Trying to say that he is not qualified to state his opinions
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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[Steve Connor] “Trying to say that he is not qualified to state his opinions”
Was David’s comment untrue? If it was true, then his lack of experience in Pro workflows is pertinent in this thread. A persons background and experience is extremely relevant in evaluating their opinions.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf
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