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Apple/Microsoft Ecosystems — If Mac Pro is EOL, why stay with Apple at all?
Dennis Radeke replied 13 years, 11 months ago 16 Members · 45 Replies
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Davee Schulte
June 21, 2012 at 6:40 amWindows was preliminarily unanimously down voted in the office today
Just wondering, is anyone there excited about the MS Surface tablet and how that could change things?
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Mark Hollander
June 21, 2012 at 4:11 pmThere are several problems with imacs. 1) When the monitor dies (when not if, we have had 2 die in 2 years) the computer is next to useless. It has to be sent off to be repaired at a quite significant cost. When the last one broke-down I was quoted $1000 to fix it! If a monitor on a MacPro dies it’s no drama at all. Grab a spare and keep on truckin. 2) the gloss screen, deal breaker. 3) I render in Lightwave (which uses 100% of every core) and leave the machines running all weekend. I would not even try this on an imac, it will be fried by Monday morning. 4) Limited RAM upgrade. 16GB is barely enough to run After Effects. 5) No input from tape (although my DVCPro50 tape deck is starting to gather dust the past 3 years) 6) No USB 3, which I can add to the MacPro for a ~$120. 7) When using multiple monitors I like having 3 identical monitors that are the same height, resolution and colour. So my eye-line is the same across the monitors and everything looks consistent. 8) Multiple internal HDDs. I don’t want to back to 1996 when my desk was filled with external devices. For my business the imacs are only good enough for admin work. They just don’t work for me in our edit suites. Having said all that the “new” MacPro would seem like a waste of money for anyone who already owns a MacPro as the current model has not had a price change since it was released in 2010. That needs to be addressed! CHEERS. Mark
“It beats working for a living”
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Herb Sevush
June 21, 2012 at 4:23 pmYes to many of your points especially #1 and #7 – tying the computer to a fixed, far from ideal display screen does not make sense for someone working with multiple screens. You can make it work, the way you can hammer a nail with an ax, but why would you want to.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Craig Seeman
June 21, 2012 at 4:31 pm[Mark Hollander] “1) When the monitor dies (when not if, we have had 2 die in 2 years) the computer is next to useless. It has to be sent off to be repaired at a quite significant cost. “
Agreed. Even if you have AppleCare, the downtime for a professional is significant.
[Mark Hollander] “2) the gloss screen, deal breaker.”
That might change with Retina Display but obviously not yet. Having seen the MBPr there glare issues seem to be gone given the way the monitor is constructed.
[Mark Hollander] “5) No input from tape”
Thunderbolt opens the door to tape input. AJA, Blackmagic, Matrox all support it.
[Mark Hollander] “6) No USB 3,”
That will likely change as well but obviously not yet.
[Mark Hollander] “They just don’t work for me in our edit suites. Having said all that the “new” MacPro would seem like a waste of money for anyone who already owns a MacPro as the current model has not had a price change since it was released in 2010. That needs to be addressed!”
It will be addressed as stated elsewhere in the thread, later in 2013.
[Mark Hollander] “the imacs are only good enough for admin work.”
All reports I’ve seen say they are fine for editing with FCPX and Smoke ran their demo on one as well. I can’t speak for Premiere or Avid though. They may not be great render/compression engines but they’re quite capable of a lot more than business admin work.
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Dennis Radeke
June 21, 2012 at 5:46 pm[Craig Seeman] “All reports I’ve seen say they are fine for editing with FCPX and Smoke ran their demo on one as well. I can’t speak for Premiere or Avid though. They may not be great render/compression engines but they’re quite capable of a lot more than business admin work.”
You can expect as good performance on Premiere Pro CS6 than you would get with any other NLE. Remember, Adobe was first of the big 3 to get to 64-bit on Mac and now with CS6 has some OpenCL support for AMD/ATI cards.
Like any 64-bit app, the more resources you throw at it, the better your performance.
Dennis – Adobe guy
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