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  • Oliver Peters

    February 22, 2019 at 1:10 am

    Re – Adobe and AMD. I’m not sure what the perceived issue is. Adobe and AMD work together just fine using either OpenCL or Metal. There is no proprietary AMD processing, like Nvidia’s CUDA. If you compare software-only encoding versus GPU-accelerated encoding (OpenCL or Metal) in any Adobe video product, the difference is significant. Resolve also only uses OpenCL or Metal. This applies to all current Macs. I have recently tested a Mac mini with an eGPU Pro. The use with only the Intel versus with the eGPU Pro (a Vega 56 card) is quite large in some examples. Premiere has other media performance issues, but GPU-acceleration isn’t one of them.

    – Oliver

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  • Bill Davis

    February 22, 2019 at 5:28 pm

    [greg janza] “Bill, you’re right about Apple services being a growing part of the overall but as this chart shows they remain primarily a phone company.”

    That’s just bad semantics. That thing in your pocket isn’t really a phone anymore. It’s just another digital terminal – one that happens to handle voice calls brilliantly.

    I’d frame it as “clearly demonstrates that of all the technologies that Apple has re-imagined and attempted to improve – the personal, hand-held device (with voice and data attached) has been the MOST widely adopted and the most successful.

    Your wireless service provider is the “phone company” now. Apple just creates and sells digital tools – and “phone” services are an important, but actually today, a very small part of that.

    The world spends WAY more time on phone creating, manipulating and consuming all manner of digital content, than making traditional “phone calls” – as I’m sure everyone here will acknowledge.

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  • Andrew Kimery

    February 22, 2019 at 8:10 pm

    [Steve Connor] “If Mac’s don’t offer what you need then of course switching is the best option, but at the moment, for me there is no reason to switch. I wouldn’t hesitate to though if I felt it would benefit my work..”

    Agreed.

    [Joe Marler] “As you said, it’s not about annual unit shipments but annual revenue.”

    If you are an Apple shareholder you care about Apple’s annual revenue. If you are a third party company making hardware/software you care about how many Macs ship because that dictates the size of your potential user base which, in turn, directly impacts your annual revenue. Apple has been one of the most profitable computer makers for almost 20yrs, but their very small footprint in the overall PC market place has kept them as a niche player.

    The switch to Intel from PPC was a boon though because it made creating/supporting Mac and Windows versions of hardware and software much easier. Even with that though there is a distinct lack of parity when it comes to hardware and software that works with Windows and hardware and software that works with MacOS. Apple deciding to only support it’s own GPU API is a step backwards towards a more isolated Apple (which is a bad step for customers).

    [greg janza] “But my son who is almost 16 just shared with me a parts list from PC Part Picker that he researched and he’s getting very excited to build a custom PC. Most of his friends also have custom PC’s. The obvious reason is for gaming but this younger generation is also getting a taste of what the PC world has to offer – i.e., freedom of choice and I think that freedom will be something that they will want going forward.

    For me it’s been cyclical. Like many Gen-Xers I grew up with off-the-shelf PCs at home and Macs at school. When I got more into computers and computer gaming I started building PCs (for gaming and later for editing too). I built a PC for Premiere 5.5 (the old Premiere, not Pro) but I really hated the software. I also couldn’t afford Avid at the time so I chose to go with FCP 3 (which meant buying my first Mac). After years of being able to choose every part that went into my computer there was something nice about having a much more straightforward decision making process and getting a computer that ‘just worked’ (hence why VARs used to be a big thing).

    Now that I’ve been in the Mac-eco system so long (with ever-dwindling options) part of me wonders if I’m handicapping myself by not throughly investigating the Windows PC world again. After almost a year of mainly editing on a Windows 10 machine my “OMG Windows!?!” knee-jerk reaction has long since disappeared and many of the things I ‘had to have’ on my Mac were mainly just creature comforts that I don’t really miss now that I haven’t been using them for a while.

    Maybe I’ll go back to Windows for a number of years and then go back to Mac a number of years after that. Who knows…

  • Oliver Peters

    February 23, 2019 at 5:39 pm

    [Bill Davis] “The world spends WAY more time on phone creating, manipulating and consuming all manner of digital content, than making traditional “phone calls” – as I’m sure everyone here will acknowledge.”

    How sad.

    – Oliver

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  • Eric Santiago

    February 24, 2019 at 6:00 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “How sad.”

    It is sad but its mostly true.
    I spend a lot of time in front of software, and almost every 5 min look at my phone for all things social media.
    I may have actually used the voice part twice a week.
    I can’t say what texting is in this realm.

  • Tony West

    February 24, 2019 at 6:26 pm

    [Eric Santiago] “It is sad but its mostly true.”

    Depends on how you look at it. I screened my film in Berlin last year and I had never been to Europe in my life. I used my “mobile computing device” to promote my film on Instagram and other platforms. To let people know my film was there and to see history face to face. To find my way to the Berlin wall, or to figure out how long it would take for me to get from Auschwitz to Oscar Schindler’s factory when I got to Poland.

    As I posted my travels people asked how I knew about all those places and if someone booked them for me. No, I used my “phone”.

    The only thing that made me “sad” were the crimes against humanity that I saw.

  • Oliver Peters

    February 24, 2019 at 9:48 pm

    [Eric Santiago] “and almost every 5 min look at my phone for all things social media”

    That’s called an addiction ☺

    – Oliver

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