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Apple shill David Pogue busted
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[Michael Hancock] “We know it’s not natively supported and that, when FCPX launched, Red wasn’t working with Apple to provide native support. We know it’s the only NLE that doesn’t support native .r3d files. We know that Apple has made no official statement about .r3d support. That’s pretty substantial to quite a few people. To say we really don’t know anything about .r3d support is rather dismissive.”
I obviously mean we don’t know anything about Apple’s future plans with respect to R3D support. Which is true. Is there some reason you’re being pointlessly argumentative?
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[Chris Kenny] “I obviously mean we don’t know anything about Apple’s future plans with respect to R3D support. Which is true. Is there some reason you’re being pointlessly argumentative?”
You originally said in your reply that other outlets reported the same information as David Pogue. I can’t recall other outlets relaying information about collaboration with Red, as Pogue did. Then you dismiss Pogue’s info about it, assuming a miscommunication.
But we don’t have the luxury of assuming these things. If you’re a journalist at the NYT, then it’s your JOB to ACCURATELY convey the facts. Whether Pogue considers himself a “journalist” or an “opinion writer” isn’t even relevant in this case.
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Whats interesting here is that Pogue passed over a far more interesting story. Apple clearly shifted direction with FCP X and instead of taking a hard look at how that shift would effect the user base Pogue went to great lengths to refute the issues raised by FCP users, by quoting, some argue incorrectly, from Apple PR sources.
As a Tech writer on the receiving end of 300+ comments about FCP X, Pogue should be asking and answering some larger questions about one of the most controversial product releases since Windows Vista.
Who’s interests did his articles serve?possibleimpossible.com
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[Chris Kenny] “All the info from Pogue’s column that’s relevant to the FCP X discussion was also given to other outlets such as Studio Daily, and has now been confirmed by Apple in the FAQ and via reports out of tonight’s London event.”
That’s your spin entirely Chris, and you’re coming off sounding like a moderator or arbiter of sorts, which you are not.
As one of the forum leaders here, unfortunately charged with the role of arbiter
from time to time, let me say that Aharon was entirely within his rights to post an article or message questioning David Pogue’s veracity.Journalists like Pogue with even the specter of impropriety do a disservice to all, especially to their readers and to other journalists with integrity.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
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I think the relevant point to this whole NY Times mess is Apple’s cowardice in going to Pogue, rather than, say Gary Adcock or anyone who would know what the hell they were talking about.
That, to me, says LOTS about Apple’s direction and target for FCP-X.
David Jahns
Joint Editorial
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[Chris Kenny] ”
I obviously mean we don’t know anything about Apple’s future plans with respect to R3D support. Which is true. Is there some reason you’re being pointlessly argumentative?”Interesting? Your tea leaves are always perfect, but when others read theirs, it renders their arguments invalid.
You of all of the posters on this forum have defended your various positions time and time again by prognosticating the future of FCP X and putting down others who doubt your vision or who may not share your faith.
Is there some reason you Chris Kenny are pointlessly argumentative?
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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[Brian Langeman] “But the RED info is one of the most important things to me. You can’t just “dismiss” that.”
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Actually we can dismiss it (just to be arguemenative)
We do not care about you at all. We all care about ourselves more than we care about you.
and Why does everyone else think there workflow is more important than Mine is?
>Rant
Brian,IMHO it is so confusing right now, this is all crazy. I am re-writing stuff as it is being released due to the speed of changes here – take a breath, things will get better, but its not going to happen in a day or a week.
Right now, everything is working towards the Lion release (next week?)
No “true” Pro is going to be jumping to new versions of their base toolset until it has been tested and tried extensively. FCP X is what 3 weeks old?
IF we want to talk in FCS 3 terms, that shipping period would mean that the first boxes would just starting to arrive at Apple dealers in small town USA. The internet has not only accelerated the delivery time but the angst and fear surronding everything that people do not know.
The world has not ended. The sun is shining (were I am at). If it does not work out your way, thats life, there are a couple of other viable solutions to work with if FCP X is not going to work for you.
gary adcock
Studio37Post and Production Workflow Consultant
Production and Post Stereographer
Chicago, ILhttps://blogs.creativecow.net/24640
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[Brian Langeman] “You originally said in your reply that other outlets reported the same information as David Pogue. I can’t recall other outlets relaying information about collaboration with Red, as Pogue did. Then you dismiss Pogue’s info about it, assuming a miscommunication.”
Yes, part of the reason I dismissed Pogue’s comments on collaboration with Red was that other outlets weren’t reporting the same thing. I’m not entirely sure what your point is here.
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Gary,
Don’t know how much, if any of that was sarcastic hehe. But I think you know that I’m far from the only one who places a good R3D workflow as pretty important.
As far as the world ending, I am not distressed one bit! I transferred my Macs over to CS 5.5 last week, and am quite pleased with my findings!
I’m just giving Chris Kenny some of his own medicine. But unlike him, I am not about to find every single thread on the internet which talks positively about apple or FCPX and try and derail it.
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[David Roth Weiss] “That’s your spin entirely Chris, and you’re coming off sounding like a moderator or arbiter of sorts, which you are not.”
Could you please explain what information Apple released via Pogue, that was cited in this forum, has not been borne out, other than the Red workflow information, which was identified as being incorrect at the time?
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