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apple reinvents the pen and cave painting!
Jamie Franklin replied 14 years, 9 months ago 11 Members · 34 Replies
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Bill Davis
July 16, 2011 at 10:31 pmTim,
It’s not a comparison of FCP-X and Photoshop itself.
It’s a comparison to the introduction and development PATHS that each took. (but I guess that’s WAY too complex an idea for some here to grasp.)
Those of us who truly had to struggle with adopting and then waiting months, or even years, for our early software to mature into robust professional tools – are TRYING to pass along the hard won wisdom that 1st gen software has traditionally and TYPICALLY been a process of trial, revision, and then success or failure as maturity is reached.
Today, the squalling children want it both PERFECT and RIGHT NOW. (and as a father, I understand that as well as most.) But it’s not how large strides in technological evolution works and it will never be.
Apple, more than others has proved this over and over and over again. When you see where the market might move – you go there EARLY. You don’t wait until everyone is already there before you set up your play.
Every great tool you use today is the result of the SAME EXACT PROCESS. Introduction, early adopters, refinement, re-introduction, base growth, and evolution. Some software dies before ever maturing. Other BECOMES the standard after years of development.
That evolution is precisely and exactly true of Photoshop – and of Final Cut Pro.
The POINT was that version 1 of ALL THREE were underpowered, feature poor, and laughable as to their regard by the working professionals of the time.
Two of those went on to dominate their respective industries and became the market leaders.
The jury is still very much out on FCP-X. But I still think it’s useful to look back and understand how today’s dominant tools were every bit as much reviled as FCP-X when they were starting out.
Simple as that.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Conner
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Tim Kolb
July 17, 2011 at 2:10 am[Bill Davis] “The POINT was that version 1 of ALL THREE were underpowered, feature poor, and laughable as to their regard by the working professionals of the time. “
But this argument implies that Apple hasn’t had a software product in that space for a decade and had no users waiting for a product they’d invested HEAVILY in to extend like the competitive products have… Your implication is that they’re inventing FCP v1 for the first time.
They’re not.
Adobe never promised Photoshop v10 users something great was coming…then released Photoshop Elements v1 promising that they’ll get some missing features put back in there eventually…while the earlier version of Photoshop is removed from the market while the new “think different and stop whining” Photoshop Elements isn’t even able to load existing Photoshop documents…but Corel does no problem.
“Hey Photoshop v1 didn’t have many features when it came out either, so printing industry and ad agencies everywhere that created an entire set of jobs and industry around Photoshop, that can no longer prepare anything for pre-press (who uses paper anymore?) …shut your cake holes.
Yeah… that makes lots of sense. However…THAT’s more of a parallel to the FCP vs FCPX scenario than just looking at version 1 of every other piece of software that started as version 1.
Even when Adobe rewrote Premiere from the ground up and tacked “Pro” on the end in 2003, existing users were still given an upgrade path…and the later version of the software, even though quite different, could load legacy version projects, as it does to this day.
It’s simply not comparable. Apple’s competitor is the only company that makes a current product that will load it’s own existing professional customer’s legacy projects…it’s absurd and it shows that Apple has nothing approaching reciprocal loyalty to what the professional post production market has shown Apple.
I don’t think there is a doubt that Apple once again got in the time machine and jumped ahead, but this time they cut off the very user group that they have been holding up as the user base they dominate vs Adobe and Avid in their messaging.
They made a smart move for Apple long-term. I expect that bleeding a point a day of their higher end professional market share is something they anticipated and as the drive is on to upgrade iMovie users….they’re simply focused elsewhere.
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,Adobe Certified Instructor
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David Lawrence
July 18, 2011 at 5:15 ampure win, Aindreas!
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Jamie Franklin
July 18, 2011 at 6:54 amMy biggest issue, and more personal than anything, was the EOL on Color. I have CS5 and adore it. After Effects is my second home next to FCP7. But Color is where I invested a lot of time and expense and it’s quite a bother to me switching over to DaVinci and going through yet another round of training…Had Apple even HINTED at pulling it, I would have invested where I was limited. So for now I’m stuck on a powerful dinosaur that has a host of issues that will never be resolved now…
X is a disaster, the timeline is heartless. But, making an NLE switch wasn’t the biggest issue for me personally only because I have somewhere to go to without incurring additional expense unlike some others……
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