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Apple and the relentless pursuit of excellence …
Oliver Peters replied 8 years ago 15 Members · 42 Replies
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Jeremy Garchow
April 28, 2018 at 12:07 pmThis guy sounds like any mechanic.
My good buddy’s dad was a mechanic for nearly his entire life. Every single car, no matter the make, model, price, luxury, or practicality was a “shitbox”. Every. Car.
Every frame a painting? No, every car a shitbox.
When you get inside the machine for too long, you start to see the flaws. You become aware of every decision, every dollar saved, every process demystified, every marketing term uncovered.
I admire his crusade to put himself out of a job for the betterment of the Apple buying public. It’s a noble cause.
As far as your comment, Bob Zelin, about third party drivers, that is definitely more of a concern for me. I just recently switched to High Sierra, only because 10.4.1 required it. I had some issue getting SAN clients up and running. Nothing too major, nothing unsolvable, but definitely not as plug and play as it has been in the past. When working with support, they mentioned that Microsoft has enabled more strict changes in driver signatures for third parties. So, it’s not only Apple that is doing this. It seems to be a current security trend.
Also, my Wacom drivers were blocked upon reinstall. That was super weird.
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Simon Ubsdell
April 28, 2018 at 12:45 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “This guy sounds like any mechanic.
My good buddy’s dad was a mechanic for nearly his entire life. Every single car, no matter the make, model, price, luxury, or practicality was a “shitbox”. Every. Car. “
Exactly.
I love all guys like this. I love their passion and their frustration and their perfectionism.
We don’t have to take everything they say as the definitive answer to the big picture, but it enriches us to listen to them once in a while.
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Greg Janza
April 28, 2018 at 3:37 pm[Scott Thomas] ” In my opinion, Apple is egalitarian.”
Like everything else with Apple, that egalitarian notion is also changing:
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Jim Kreitner
April 28, 2018 at 4:43 pmScott Thomas “I stopped listening after the author called Apple “luxury”. That is BS. In my opinion, Apple is egalitarian.”
Scott, I’m at a loss for your use of ‘egalitarian’ in this case. There are several criteria which may commonly be referenced when using the term: social, political and economic equality. Which is your point of reference? Because you quoted the word ‘luxury’, (which generally means something ‘high-end’ -and by association, ‘high-cost’), you must not be referring to economic equality, since in that sense Apple products certainly tilt heavily towards that side of the scale of being a luxury for many (not being judgemental about whether they’re worth the cost, only the socioeconomic reality that their cost would automatically exclude some members of society and make them non-egalitarian; so please clarify what the intention of your statement was.
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Andrew Kimery
April 28, 2018 at 5:29 pm[Scott Thomas] “I stopped listening after the author called Apple “luxury”. That is BS. In my opinion, Apple is egalitarian.”
Jobs might have envisioned the Mac as “the computer for the rest of us” but that was in terms of usability, not price. Apple products have always been positioned as a premium brand. Apple never competed with Dell or Compaq or IBM in the race to the bottom. I remember when Dell started pummeling the market with $300-$400 computers and Apple responded by making the eMac available to the general public at the low, low price of of $1000 (which made it the least expensive Mac at the time). Later $500 would get you a Mac Mini, or $500 would get you a PC that came with a keyboard, mouse, monitor and most likely a printer.
The high margins and PR/marketing that elevated the Mac to more than ‘just a computer’ obviously paid off well for Apple. And to be fair the fit and finish on Apple products is, or at least used to be, much better than on other competition. I remember opening up my old dual CPU G4 tower for the first time and being amazed and how the build quality and attention to detail was so much better than what my experience had been with Gate, Dell and HP.
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Oliver Peters
April 28, 2018 at 6:56 pm[Andrew Kimery] “And to be fair the fit and finish on Apple products is, or at least used to be, much better than on other competition. “
Well, at least after Jobs came back. I known plenty of folks (me included) with scrapped knuckles and sliced fingers after working on 9500, 9600, etc series Macs.
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Oliver Peters
April 28, 2018 at 7:58 pm[Bill Davis] “Okay, got the message. From your view, Apple is officially all crap and a barely 2 percent worse “repair score” from a global manufacturer is reason enough to JUST SAY NO. “
Sorry, but you were the one who asked for stats. Don’t blame others if you don’t like the answer.
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Bill Davis
April 28, 2018 at 10:19 pm[Oliver Peters] “Sorry, but you were the one who asked for stats. Don’t blame others if you don’t like the answer.
“But I don’t dislike them at all, Oliver,
They’re all within such an extremely narrow range that I can’t imagine the differences enter into anyones decision making.
Without a more compelling delta – it’s a push, IMO.
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Scott Thomas
April 28, 2018 at 10:26 pmI was a reluctant Mac user in 1994. I came to appreciate the PowerMac after a few months. I think the worst Mac I experienced was the beige G3 with a motherboard failure, but it at least had better ingress than the 9500.
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Bill Davis
April 28, 2018 at 10:31 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “When working with support, they mentioned that Microsoft has enabled more strict changes in driver signatures for third parties. So, it’s not only Apple that is doing this. It seems to be a current security trend. “
THIS.
Driver stuff, hardware authentications, log in’s – site visits – with cookies or without.
Used to be I could do six months of business computing without being challenged to authenticate that my virtual presence was provable EVER.
Now if I go a week without a challenge code being sent to my phone to authorize access to some account, web portal or process, it’s the exception – and I’ve had days where I’ve had to cross that type of gateway a dozen times. I expected it from financial institutions – but the new obsession from so many general data repositories is a big shift.
Things have definitely evolved/changed in that space across ALL manufacturers and developers VERY rapidly.
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