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  • Stephen Crye

    November 26, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Hi Brian;

    I want to hijack my own thread and repurpose it a bit.

    Chromatic Aberration at full zoom was one reason I sent back my NX70. The link below will take you to a folder with some examples:

    https://www.huecotanks.com/temp1/

    I know that your XF305 has much better optics than the XF100, but I would greatly appreciate it if you could do a quick shoot of a scene with high-contract near the edges of the frame, at full zoom, and post a frame grab of the results.

    On dvinfo, Andy was kind enough to do this with his JVC HM150. I see that the JVC has the problem as bad as my NX70 did:

    https://www.dvinfo.net/forum/jvc-gy-hm100-camcorder/502448-my-new-hm150u.html#post1699606

    I have a bit of urgency with this question – I’ve been trying to get an XF100 owner to respond for about 4 weeks with no luck. The NX70 is currently on sale at B&H for $2549.00 until Nov 30, so if the cameras that I have been considering as alternates also have the CA problem, I think I will re-purchase the NX70.

    Thanks!

    Steve

    Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T3400, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM Vegas 10e x64 DVDA 5.2(build 133) Sony HDR-CX550V

  • Stephen Crye

    November 26, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Hi Brian;

    I want to hijack my own thread and repurpose it a bit.

    Chromatic Aberration at full zoom was one reason I sent back my NX70. The link below will take you to a folder with some examples:

    https://www.huecotanks.com/temp1/

    I know that your XF305 has much better optics than the XF100, but I would greatly appreciate it if you could do a quick shoot of a scene with high-contract near the edges of the frame, at full zoom, and post a frame grab of the results.

    I have a bit of urgency with this question – I’ve been trying to get an XF100 owner to respond for about 4 weeks with no luck. The NX70 is currently on sale at B&H for $2549.00 until Nov 30, so if the cameras that I have been considering as alternates also have the CA problem, I think I will re-purchase the NX70.

    Thanks!

    Steve

    Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T3400, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM Vegas 10e x64 DVDA 5.2(build 133) Sony HDR-CX550V

  • Brian Struble

    November 26, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    Steve:

    I’ll take a quick look at some testing files I’ve shot with my Xf300, and get back to you asap.

    Brian

  • Brian Struble

    November 26, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    Steve:

    Check out this file. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3476955/XF300-CA-Test.zip

    I quickly tried a worst-case situation. Black against a white background. The white source in this case is a Fluorescent light panel, 180degree shutter. There is a small amount of CA apparent, but I have never seen it while shooting more-realistic subject matter…

    hope this helps!

    Brian

  • Stephen Crye

    November 26, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Wow, that was quick! Greatly appreciated.

    Although I see CA, it seems to be uniform, and not worse on the edges of the frame, the way it was on my NX70. Hmmmm….

    Steve

    Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T3400, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM Vegas 10e x64 DVDA 5.2(build 133) Sony HDR-CX550V

  • Brian Struble

    November 26, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Steve:

    Glad to help out… Yes, the CA is there and it’s an extreme situation that probably won’t be a real-world situation.

    Here’s a brief piece that I shot outside this fall: https://vimeo.com/32022445. Aside from editing the shots together (Sony Vegas 10e) and rendering, nothing special was done to address CA.

    Brian

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  • Stephen Crye

    November 27, 2011 at 5:24 am

    Brian, that is a beautiful vid, one of the best XF vids I’ve seen. Most XF vids seem smudged and boringly undersaturated. Did you boost the color in post, or tweak the camera?

    I know that you can’t comment on the XF100 lens (man, I wish some XF owners would help out the way you have!) , but your focus seems very sharp from edge to edge.

    I would love to know if the XF100’s low-light performance is better or worse than the NX70. The zoom range from f1.8 to 2.8 makes me think it is better …

    Agonizing over the decision. If only the XF did not use those expensive CF cards I would be ready to pull the trigger … for the long-duration shots I routinely do it will cost me a minimum of $500.00 for cards …

    Steve

    Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T3400, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM Vegas 10e x64 DVDA 5.2(build 133) Sony HDR-CX550V

  • A.miller@yourmusicmuse.com Mueller

    March 25, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    I tried doing this from the “project media” pane and also the “media manager pane”. I selected all the files and dragged them onto the timeline and they are still split events. Can you please elaborate on how to get vegas to see these as one event? Thanks

    Lee

    Director Of Video Production (yes this is made up)

    https://www.yourmusicmuse.com

  • Dave Haynie

    March 26, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Separate files are always separate events.

    There are two things you can do in Vegas to deal with separate files. One is simply group them (select them all, hit the “g” key or “Add Group” from the menus). Another one: drop all files, sequentially, into a project. Save the project. Load the .veg file for that project into your main project — all one “clip” now.

    The more important thing to know is just how your camera breaks files up when recording. If the camera’s always breaking things on a GOP boundary, both techniques are all you need. But if the camera’s breaking files on a byte broundary, you can wind up with broken GOPs when you just drop them together on a timeline. This is what my Panasonic AVC cameras do, as previously mentioned here. So I physically merge the files into one large >4GB file, which will work when the camera’s breaking the stream, but not if it’s fully closing one stream and opening another at the break.

    But the nice thing is, I wind up with a single file for each continuous shot, regardless of length… almost as if my camcorders had been rooted in the better features of early 90s filesystems, rather than those of the simplest of the earlies 80s (eg, support for >4GB file systems).

    -Dave

  • A.miller@yourmusicmuse.com Mueller

    April 2, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Would love to get an answer on this. The above post about “lassoing” the files onto the timeline is the closest thing I can find to a solution for this $4000.00 camera.

    Is it ok to start a new post on this?

    Lee

    Director Of Video Production (yes this is made up)

    https://www.yourmusicmuse.com

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