Anyone using Plural Eyes?

[Greg Janza]

What’s preventing you from live switching the event? I would discuss options with the client.

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[John Watts]

We are diligently working toward getting this show to be live switched. I feel like this is going to happen in the near future.

FYI, during the edit last night, Plural Eyes worked!! Yay! It took a week but Red Giant tech support got back with me and provided a suggestion. Hopefully, this fix will stick and life can move on.
The fix had to do with the naming convention and path of the project.

Thanks for listening to my whining.

Good luck, we’re all counting on you.

John Watts
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32GB 1867 MHz DDR3
Graphics AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4096 MB
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[Alan Norman]

greg janza – I have been following this post and I too have H264 files that are hard to work with in multi camera.

What is the most efficient way to work with the files to transcode please ?

Regards

Alan

[Greg Janza]

Transcoding H264 into either Pro-res or DNxHD/HR will greatly increase overall Premiere performance. This used to be potentially problematic because of the large file sizes created by these formats but with storage being cheap it’s now a non-issue.

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[Melvin Chong]

There is always a render tax involved. You either take the time to convert to an editable format beforehand or have a painfully long render time at the end.

[Gary Huff]

[Alan Norman] “What is the most efficient way to work with the files to transcode please ?”

The best thing you can do, on a Mac at least, is to get EditReady and have it re-wrap AVCHD into single QuickTime (MOV) files. This is really fast because it’s not transcoding, it’s simply re-wrapping. This takes the AVCHD content out of the directory setups and gives you a simple *single* file to work with. And if clips are spanned over multiple MTS files, it will combine those as well.

On a Mac, if you do any amount of significant work with AVCHD, EditReady is a must-have.

Otherwise, if you have FCPX, you can also import AVCHD into it and it will do the same thing, then you can pull the resulting QuickTimes out of the library bundle. However, FCPX will rename them all, EditReady keeps the original naming convention (not that it’s much better, 00001.MOV for example).

[Gary Huff]

[Melvin Chong] “There is always a render tax involved. You either take the time to convert to an editable format beforehand or have a painfully long render time at the end.”

There is no need to be transcoding AVCHD to ProRes. Sure, hard drives are cheap, but once you’ve done a lot of these projects, it can add up. I have a single client who has over 30TB of footage. Not so cheap at that level.

On a powerful system like the iMac from last year, transcoding is a waste of time.

[John Watts]

Here is an update concerning the Plural Eyes 4.

Audio drift is the biggest issue I get with these one hour plus long AVCHD files. Plus there is 10 cameras worth of these.

Someone advised using EditReady to rewrap these 7 or so .mts files per camera into one quicktime. And it is great advice!

EditReady will rewrap as it transfers the SD card to the media drive, adding no conversion time.

Now, the sequence has 10 single qt files and a master audio file. There is still some sync issues which vary show to show. Plural Eyes now works much better, I believe, because instead of trying to sync 70 or so individual files, it is now just working with 10 video and 1 master audio. The audio drift fix is the ticket and “knock on wood” the most solid solution to date. Plural Eyes can be flaky though, it hangs up, or error codes and I have to jump through some hoops to make it work.

Anyway, just sharing for those who are caring…

John Watts
Premiere Pro Version 12.1.2 Build 69
2017 iMac (Retina 5K 27 inch) 1TB SSD
4GHZ Intel Core i7
32GB 1867 MHz DDR3
Graphics AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4096 MB
macOS High Sierra Version 10.13.6

[Michael Rothenberg]

Great thread! I have had good luck with all the strategies mentioned above. Edit Ready is a godsend.

Thanks all!

Michael Rothenberg
Peak Productions