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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Any way to just share a project without original media (FCP X10.2.2)?

  • Craig Alan

    November 14, 2015 at 10:15 pm

    Some but not much rigor involved.

    Create a folder in the finder on your media raid with the same NAME AS LIBRARY.
    Put labeled folders in this “same NAME AS LIBRARY” folder:

    FC BACKUPS
    MEDIA
    CAMERA CARDS (or whatever the original media files are called)
    RENDER

    In FCP X highlight the library
    in the inspector click modify settings and chose the above folders.

    done.

    I keep a folder on my desktop with the above named folders and drag them into the NAME AS LIBRARY folder when I create a new library.

    All components of each project is now stored in one folder and can easily be backed up.

    EXAMPLE: inside finder folder called CAMAREE 8-15-15

    Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.

  • Craig Alan

    November 14, 2015 at 10:34 pm

    if he not going to do any editing then highlight the timeline and export.

    Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.

  • Tangier Clarke

    November 14, 2015 at 10:52 pm

    Haven’t had any issues using managed libraries even in a multi editor workflow. In some ways I prefer it. It’s just the steps in sending a simple project. Though I am not working on a SAN and perhaps some of you are.

    Tangier

  • Tangier Clarke

    November 14, 2015 at 10:55 pm

    So true Oliver. It helps people stay more organized. And for someone like myself with a background in computer science and develops FileMaker and SQL based databases perhaps that’s why I like it. I am playing IT person so much it’s nice to have something that can help manage things when other users don’t have the care for organization to the extent that I do or at least try to.

    Tangier

  • Tangier Clarke

    November 14, 2015 at 11:05 pm

    I follow similar practices although my folders are different and I leave backups in the MacOS Shared account so it’s not bound to a user. This is only for the machines that aren’t mine exclusively like my laptop. Though the structure below is more for the final archive so it’s what I expect editors to give me as a package when done.

    My folders are:
    shoot sources
    editorial files (for XML and trimmed FCP X libraries – since the shoot files were already backed up no need to keep the original shot media)
    audio archive (D, M, & E, mixes, PT, Logic Pro X, files, mixes, etc.)
    motion graphics
    thumbnails
    miscellaneous
    exports (for masters and web versions)

    Additionally I employ a file naming structure for created content so that we’re not relying on folders or rely on them as little as possible. I try to keep things with search in mind and I tend not to use short names for shows because people may not know what it refers to without using some other database, excel, sheet etc. So my project name in full is in the file name and library name. The event name can be abbreviated

    For example:
    lower 3rds (from Motion or AE or whatever) = lower3rd_[whatever the name is]
    motion graphics = mgrafx_[name of file with version

    Archive goes to backup drive, drive gets cloned and synced with Decimus Synk, then a run of NeoFinder on one of the drives, then to the shelf (or drawer) both drives go until the next archive…repeat until drives are full and more need to be purchased.

    Tangier

  • Joe Marler

    November 14, 2015 at 11:35 pm

    [Oliver Peters] [managed libraries] “The reason that it’s good is solid media relinking.”

    Everyone may know this, but current versions of FCP X will scan the entire hard drive to relink media. IOW when encountering the red “Missing File” icons, you can select Files>Relink Files>Locate All, and select the hard drive, not a folder. It will scan the entire hard drive and relink every file, even if the folders are all different between source and destination.

  • Oliver Peters

    November 14, 2015 at 11:51 pm

    [Joe Marler] “current versions of FCP X will scan the entire hard drive to relink media.”

    The key difference is when you import media into a Library. FCPX embedded data into the file or rewraps or transcoded the file depending on what it needs.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Tangier Clarke

    November 15, 2015 at 12:40 am

    Joe, I didn’t know this. Thanks. Usually direct it to the first clip and it finds the rest; being that I try not to abstract my files into folders for the very purpose of simpler relinking.

    Tangier

  • Craig Alan

    November 15, 2015 at 3:52 am

    [Tangier Clarke] “Haven’t had any issues using managed libraries”

    Yes its easier to “share” a project if all is in the library. Though I think it makes sense to have Card copies elsewhere and the FCBackups elsewhere, even if imported media stays in library. An advantage to your way is backups of the library won’t need to relink media the way a clone does if the media now resides on a different drive.

    Do you know if a project can be recreated from just the card copies and a FCback up file?

    Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.

  • Bret Williams

    November 15, 2015 at 4:00 am

    Simply do what you said and copy the project to a new library. It will be instantaneous if it’s on the same drive as it actually uses hard links to duplicate the media without taking up any space. This of course is only the case if your media is internally managed. If it’s externally managed then the new library will be empty anyway and you’re ready to go. But if the media is internally managed, you just need to consolidate the media out of the library to a separate folder. Like I said it doesn’t take up any extra drive space or much time. Your client should open the library and copy the project to his library.

    XML doesn’t carry color board info?

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