Any news on PPRO 2.0?

[Peter Corbett]

Nope.

[Steven L. gotz]

And there will not be until some European magazine leaks it in violation of their NDA, like they have done the last few times.

[George Socka]

I would not be teh first to cast stones at the UK mags. As a some time tech writer, the problem I always found with NDAs is that they end up making journalists sell out as shills for vendors. Sure, without an NDA you end up missing out on a few free lunches, but then, in many cases you can always just rephrase the press release or advertorial in time for a dealine anyway. Never found a company unwilling to take all of the free exposure it can get just by the refusal to sign an NDA. Never heard of any vendor pulling its ad spend as a result of an NDA breach either. As it is, I can also say that I have never read a critical review in any of the glossy $$$ UK mags either. So bottom line, it is a journalists job to get the news and get it out. Regardless of what the newsmaker may want. Heck if Bernstein and Woodward had signed an NDA, where would the Watergate story have gone?

As a reader, I want the news and I want it now. How it gets to me is a bit irrelevant. I expect the media, paper based or web based to deliver. Otherwise, what is the point. PR I can get from an RSS feed without ads.

The same reasoning does not necessarily apply to beta testers, where there is a bit of an element of trust to be expected.

[Steven L. gotz]

Actually, it is not a UK magazine. The one I mean is not in English which always causes a rush of half baked translations.

The point you make could be valid. I just never gave it much thought. The fact is that Adobe doesn’t announce anything until it is being printed to the media, or so it seems. Usually about 30 days in advance and no more. They made a mistake announcing Premiere Pro 1.5.1 and it cost them some credibility.

[Redgum]

And after all, who cares. The only people pre-release affects is those with $100 notes hanging out of their wallet with nothing better to do. We all know, or should know, that version one of any hardware/software is at best a pain in the neck and most times catastrophic. Remember all those pleas for “where’s the update?”
I guess I’ve been in this industry too long.

Redgum Television Productions
Broadcast & Corporate Documentaries
Brisbane, Australia

[George Socka]

I would personally care – I have held off updating to 1.5 and Photoshop CS. If I knew that 2.0 were coming out in a month I would not bother with 1.5. If I new taht FCP5 were coming out I might try it rather than wait for 2.0 ( if I could switch to a mac ). Now I know that there is no point in upgrading to the latest Flash MX since I know there will be an Adobe’s version. I just dont knwo when. Adobe’s model is of course their business. And has made them a few bucks. It is the tech media’s business to find out as much as they can and publish it. BEFORE Adobe makes it own announcement. Again, if one has to wait for the announcement anyway, then why bother paying CAN$20 to read Computer Arts mag, or even this website. One need simply read Adobe’s website. So bring on the prerelease rumors, the NDA breakers. BTW, the most successful software company in the world, MS, keeps its customers in the loop early in the cycle. And Bill G must be given credit for knowing something about software marketing!

[Steven L. gotz]

What makes you think that Adobe doesn’t have a large collection of testers and advisors from within this and other communities?

I believe that a magazine that beats others to the punch because the rest made a promise they intended to keep is just wrong.

[Redgum]

I guess if you’re only playing around in the industry it’s only a game. Those who use these products for a living have a job to do, and simply buy the most suitable tool available at that time. An upgrade has to be inspiring, not simply available.

Redgum Television Productions
Broadcast & Corporate Documentaries
Brisbane, Australia

[Video Opp]

I was very disappointed that there was no new release of PPro announced at NAB. I have been an enthusiastic user of PPro since it was first released. However on large projects where there are thousands of clips referenced, I have found that PPro runs into some problems. The forced audio conforming eats up the hard drives. The bin architecture (which is apparently a carry over from the After Effects design structure and was never meant to work with thousands of clips over multilevel folders) is extremely tedious to work with. And generally speaking, the larger the project, the more PPro tends to slow down and even crash. I was hoping that some of these problems would be addressed in a release of 2.0 in April or May, but it looks like 2.0 is now still many months away. I wish that Adobe would at least release patches to fix some of these obvious problems, to an otherwise fantastic program.

Last month I started a project in Edius Pro, partly to try it out and partly to possibly switch just in case PPro did not come up with 2.0. While I find myself often scratching my head at the UI of Edius, I do have to say that it is nice to have the use of my Storm card back, and I have no more problems getting bogged down with a large project. The bin structure is wonderful and no more audio conforming!!!

I can

[Tim Kolb]

[Video Opp] “One year is too long to go with out an update or patch. Sorry Adobe. “

It’s interesting that you obviously have no clue what that update will include, yet you have predetermined the period of time it should take Adobe to come out with the next version.

I think your point on Edius is relevant, but your assessment on Adobe’s turn time with an update is baseless. Premiere 4.2 and Photoshop 3.0 were current in 1994 or 95…obviously there have been far fewer updates than one per year…even including any patches.

Have you reported your issues at Adobe.com? There is a bug reporting procedure there for users.

Longer length program-related bugs can be difficult to uncover in a beta period as they are hard projects to risk on beta software for any user. If users don’t actually report bugs…Adobe can’t fix them.

TimK
Kolb Syverson Communications
Creative Cow Host
2004, 2005 NAB Post Production Conference Premiere Pro Technical Chair
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net