Another calibrating monitor question

[Don Cobble]

Sir John I have the spyder 3 also. But just saw this thread because I have a new monitor (Not great but better) I noticed you said in this post

[(1073.7M colors). It’s brightness is also 300 cd/㎡ while mine is 400 cd/㎡ so it’s not as bright.]

Mine is neither of those, but maybe I dont understand???? In calibrating my monitor the spyder software had me adjust to 120 cd/㎡ from 189.9 cd/㎡ and my picture is dull as looking through a fog??? Am I calibrating incorrectly to go down to 120? If 120 cd/㎡ is correct whats the advantage 400 cd/㎡? So I guess I am asking what is the proper setting on spyder?

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[John Rofrano]

Don, I agree the whole calibration thing is very confusing. The first problem is you need to set up your display to the factory defaults. My display has several profile settings and even I’m not sure that I use the correct one. I forget if I used the S-RGB or some other setting as a starting point but the profiles look very different so selecting the correct profile for your monitor is the first challenge.

The setting that the Spyder uses to determine brightness is determined by the room ambiance measurement. When it asks to takes the initial measurement for room ambiance, make sure that a light is not directly shining on it (i.e., artificial or a window). Also make sure that the light from the display is not affecting it. I kept my Spyder off to the side of the display when taking the room ambiance. I don’t have a window and the lighting in my edit bay comes from ceiling lights. If the room ambiance measurement is wrong, it will calibrate the brightness wrong.

If you feed the display is really too dull then bring up the brightness a bit. What you don’t want to do is make the display look sharp when your video is actually dull because the display is making it look better than it is. I also remember having a problem setting the contrast correctly. Contrast is another setting that affects how dull or sharp it looks.

I would love to find a tutorial somewhere that shows how to do this because I was just following the software but I had a lot of questions about my display settings as well. Every display is different. 🙁

~jr

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[Don Cobble]

Sir John -1st Thank You – I have messed with my spyder 3 pro for 3 days – there is no way it is correct. But it may be my use of it – so I just went back to standard settings on monitor. I was peaking whites on waveform monitor and the picture was still dark, using the spyder recommended settings??? I think that is more for photography?

Anyway! do you have a recommendation on a good monitor? that I can generally trust. I am now doing a program for Broadcast on Church Channel – need to know what I am sending is spot on. Was looking at the Samsung UD28d590d or Asus PB287Q – they are the lower end 4K monitors, What do you think? Open to suggestions but cant drop a $1000 dollars on monitor at moment.
Thank You

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[John Rofrano]

[Don Cobble] “Was looking at the Samsung UD28d590d or Asus PB287Q – they are the lower end 4K monitors, What do you think? “

I have two ASUS ProArt PA246Q monitors and I love ’em. They are old by today’s standards and have been replaced with newer models but they came calibrated from the factory and the calibration report was in the box so that I could see the values as compared with S-RGB spec so I’m guessing that the Asus PB287Q is a good monitor as well.

I would stay away from Samsung. I have had three (3) Samsung monitors go bad after only 2 or 3 years. I originally had 2 Samsung monitors and both went bad and Samsung replaced them because they were under warrantee and now one of the two replacements just burnt out last week (and these were $500 monitors!). I would never buy a monitor from Samsung again.

~jr

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