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  • Peter Corbett

    May 7, 2005 at 4:02 am

    Nicely put Michael, it is a geat community and one I just couldn’t operate without. And do you know what, the only forums that regularly generate this heat is this one and the HDV room.

    Peter Corbett
    Powerhouse Productions
    Australia

  • Stephen L. noe

    May 7, 2005 at 3:32 pm

    It’s a nice community, but this is all much to serious.

  • Ron Lindeboom

    May 9, 2005 at 6:26 pm

    [Peter Corbett] “…the only forums that regularly generate this heat is this one and the HDV room.”

    Thanks for noticing, Peter. The HDV forum is far better today than it was over the last year and a half, though. The team there is doing a great job cleaning up the place in the aftermath of all that has gone on that forum, so it’s definitely improving and we expect that the HDV forum may actually become a part of the Cow soon.

    :o)

    Ron Lindeboom

  • Peter Corbett

    May 9, 2005 at 9:44 pm

    Yep Ron, It must be something about the bleeding edge of technology that gets people’s blood boiling! Yes, it’s much nicer now :0)

    Peter Corbett
    Powerhouse Productions
    Australia

  • Ken Hon

    May 10, 2005 at 7:25 pm

    I think the blood boiling point is directly proportional to the partial pressure of vaporware!

  • Ron Lindeboom

    May 10, 2005 at 7:39 pm

    [kenh] “I think the blood boiling point is directly proportional to the partial pressure of vaporware!”

    Which is another way of saying that some people have never learned patience and have a very short fuse.

    I hardly think that vapourware is a fair assessment when applied to a company that has repeatedly delivered on their promises and has been working with major partners like Apple and Adobe and others to assure that their products meet market expectations.

    If you like something else, Ken, that’s your business but why repeatedly spend your time trying to crap on others???

    Ron Lindeboom

  • Luis Caffesse

    May 10, 2005 at 7:49 pm

    [kenh] “I think the blood boiling point is directly proportional to the partial pressure of vaporware! “

    I defintely think that people’s reactions become much more empassioned when discussing new and emerging technologies, as these are things which have not yet been tested in real world settings and generally cause us to rethink and change the way we’ve been working. Anything that causes a big change, or the promise of big change, will always ‘rock the boat’ so to speak. The same thing is occurring with HDV, as with P2, and it’s the same sort of empassioned debates we saw back in the late 90’s with the advent of DV, and even affordable nonlinear editing.

    No one knows what sort of impact, if any, these technologies will have in the long run. No one has any history or real experience to go off of, and standards and workflows have yet to really be established. So everyone winds up debating off of pure opinion and speculation. While it’s definitely true that this can get out of hand, I think it can also be very healthy and necessary when kept on topic. I know many people on this board, as well as the HDV board, have brought up workflow and produciton issues that wouldn’t have occurred to me. The key thing to remember is that we’re discussing technology here, not religion, politics, or any other personally held belief. In the end, they are just cameras.

    But, to call Panasonic’s forthcoming camera “vaporware” I think is pretty unfair (and on the opposite extreme of those who become so empassioned defending these forthcoming cameras).

    The camera has been announced, and a release date has been set. There hasn’t been any backpeddling from Panasonic, and there haven’t been any broken promises or false claims made. If fourth quarter comes and goes and the camera is nowhere to be seen, then we can start throwing around the term vaporware. But, seeing as this camera seems to be following the same exact release path that the DVX did, I don’t see any reason to doubt that we’ll see a release before the end of the year.

    The key is simply to keep things in perspective.
    There is nothing wrong with keeping an eye on the future.
    We just need to make sure that we don’t lose sight of the present.
    Use today the best tools that you have available to you, and produce the best work that you can with them.

    Just my two cents.

    Luis Caffesse
    Studio 3 Productions, Inc.
    Austin, Texas

  • Luis Caffesse

    May 10, 2005 at 7:50 pm

    That’s what I get for taking so long to write.
    You beat me to the punch Ron.
    🙂

    Luis Caffesse
    Studio 3 Productions, Inc.
    Austin, Texas

  • Ken Hon

    May 10, 2005 at 11:29 pm

    Aloha Ron,

    I sincerely apologize, it never crossed my mind that my comment would be taken the way it was. It was just a lame thermodynamics pun spun off Peter’s reply. Sorry about that.

    Ken

  • Ron Lindeboom

    May 10, 2005 at 11:37 pm

    My apologies to you as well, Ken. I mistaked you for someone else or I’d not have read your comments in the manner that I did. Sometimes, it’s just tough to keep all the players straight.

    Ron Lindeboom

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