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After a year has perception of FCPX changed?
Herb Sevush replied 14 years, 2 months ago 38 Members · 174 Replies
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Richard Herd
May 24, 2012 at 5:01 pm[Jules bowman] “And I mean top end names who the world hears about, …. I bought into FCP because of that”
A fashion industry! “Does this NLE make me look good?”
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Richard Herd
May 24, 2012 at 5:15 pmBunim-Murray and other big purchasers have big corporate concerns too. Not just editing tech. Those purchases are 60 month depreciation schedules.
I can remember installing a $1.25 million system and the only thing my boss’s boss’s boss was worried about was how expensive it was because the perception was “the more you pay the better it is.”
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David Powell
May 24, 2012 at 5:55 pm“Or when I read about Avid”
Thats about the silliest thing I’ve ever heard.
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Tangier Clarke
May 24, 2012 at 6:12 pmIn one way or another everyone’s covered all I want to say, particularly Walter. I’ve dealt with the growing pains and still use FCP 7 alongside X. The first week of X’s release I saw my editorial productivity skyrocket – no comparison. I could edit and organize faster in X. Within months FCP 7 felt old and lethargic. I recently downloaded PrP 6 and MC6. I ran back to both FCP 7 and eagerly want to cut on FCP X more.
I consider the scope of what Apple’s been doing in recent years – Core Animation, Core Graphics, Core Audio, Core Data, GPU leveraging, cleaning and streaming code with OS updates and FCP [classic] updates, mobile devices and their desktop-software counterparts, buying, rebranding/repackaging, improving, feature-merging (Shake-Motion, Logic-Soundtrack), and the massive undertaking of AV foundation and frankly I think we’re starting to see the fruits of a lot of labor that we hadn’t yet had the chance to fully exploit; thank you 64-bit.
I follow the developers as they find hidden gems of FCP X yet to be “activated”, it’s color capabilities, the awesome relational database structure it uses and how that metadata will help us later (when more hooks are available to get it out) and I see a bright future for X. I do believe that there’s “one more thing” perhaps we’ll see this year or early next; either a feature or separate app.
Someone demoes PrP6 on a massively beefed-up system recently at an LA event and it occurred to me. Apple seldom demos (publicly) on a MacPro. We all know the MacPro’s gonna shine. They demo on things like…wait for it…iMacs. That speaks volumes when you consider when you look at the performance based on their code, the core technologies, and what can be done on non-extended hardware.
My perception has changed since the release of X. It went from “this is fun, let me see how i can use it” to I want to cut everything in X now.
PrP6 is really nice, but it is very much like FCP7+ (and I mean that in a very positive way for Adobe).Though now I find myself not looking for a FCP 7 or anything like it. In my personal recent test, just a basic AVCHD (from Af100) open archive, edit, draw the thumbnails for the skimmer/hover, playback and skim/hover playback, transcode (to ProRes), etc., FCP X outperformed PrP6 by a huge margin on one of my older systems (Mac Pro 2×2.26 Quad-Core Intel Xeon/ 16 GB RAM/ ATI Radeon HD 5770/Blackmagic Multibridge Pro 2).
At the end of the day we’ll vote with our dollars. FCP 7 still works for me. FCP X is increasingly working out for me. Cutting my first 4K RED project in it (ProRes of course for now). I am looking forward to checking out the new Smoke too.
Tangier
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Chris Harlan
May 24, 2012 at 6:13 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “Say what??? Dude, you’ll love it.
When it’s off, you can select audio and video separately and break sync, or trim only one track, but if you hold option and click, it selects the linked audio and video (even if they are out of sync).
It’s really the best of both worlds.
Shift-L is the shortcut, to the little “Chain link” button in the top right corner of every sequence.
“Agreed! This is generally how I work in FCP7. And, it really is the best of both worlds. (And Jeremy, I have to reiterate how happy you made me this morning showing me that TC monitoring box. Too bad about the color-coding, but the box, itself, is enough!)
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Jeremy Garchow
May 24, 2012 at 7:21 pm[Chris Harlan] “(And Jeremy, I have to reiterate how happy you made me this morning showing me that TC monitoring box. Too bad about the color-coding, but the box, itself, is enough!)”
No worries. Glad it helped. I had to ask where it was, too. 🙂
Jeremy
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Michael Hancock
May 24, 2012 at 7:22 pm[Herb Sevush] ” I know Avid claims it can now work with ProRes directly, but I have to know that I’m not loosing any functionality doing so.”
What you would be likely losing is some stability because, if you have Quicktime ProRes files, you’d need to work with them directly through AMA (Avid Media Access) to avoid duplicating space, and that would limit some export functionality.
However, if you’re on a Mac (which you obviously are) you can rewrap the Quicktime ProRes files to ProRes MXF files which gives you full functionality and the stability Avid is known for. It’s like rewrapping P2 footage in FCP – it double the disk space you need, but it’s super fast (basically a file copy with checksum).
If you shoot to ProRes, does your recorder also shoot to DNxHD? If so, you could transition to Avid on the next shoot. Or, since I assume you’re backing up your footage, you could transcode the ProRes files directly off the recorder/cards (what are you shooting with) and edit with the Avid ProRes MXF files and place the originals on a shelf. Think of rewrapping the ProRes to MXF as your first backup, of sorts, that you’re editing with.
I’d say it’s worth investigating.
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Eric Santiago
May 24, 2012 at 8:00 pmMine has changed too 🙂 but I was for FCPX at the start. I had the chance to take in the hoopla at NAB last year and was not at all feeling that FCP was left for dead by Apple.
See the diff is that Im an Avid MC user at work but teach FCP at local college. I had the pleasure of starting a new course in Sept that year and had the chance to actually go into the guts of X with the intent of matching/better than FCP legacy. Not make FCP look bad but to assure students that they are not learning a lame duck app.
I was shocked at start of class when I gave the students an option to learn old instead of new and they all picked new.
Were they all heading to Hollywood to edit a blockbuster…nope.
They were all willing to learn something new even if they had all summer to read all the negative press.
My perception has changed from having to learn it to deliver a class to actually finding many uses for it even though we are Avid dominant at work 🙂 -
Jeremy Garchow
May 24, 2012 at 11:07 pmSo, Clint. I ask this in all seriousness, are you going to let the Internet decide what’s best for you too?
And compositing in FCPX is completely possible and in most ways easier and faster (more experimental) than 7.
I’m not saying its right for you or anyone, just wondering if you’ve tried experimenting.
Jeremy
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Bill Davis
May 25, 2012 at 12:15 amI’ll look for it tomorrow.
(I’m in SoCal shooting today and will be back in Scortsdale late tonight.)“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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