About to buy EX1, have some questions

[Steve Wargo]

[Don Greening] “I believe the poster is asking whether or not the camera will automatically switch recording from an SxS Pro card to the SDHC card (or visa versa) without issue once the first card is full.”

10-4 on that Don. I think we tried it as an experiment. And maybe, if I ever think about it when the cameras are here, I’ll test it again, just so i know.

That recording across the cards makes my stomach feel kinda funny. The whole recording to cards makes me a bit queezy.

Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
It’s a dry heat!

Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
2-Sony EX-1 HD .

[Don Greening]

[Steve Wargo] “That recording across the cards makes my stomach feel kinda funny. The whole recording to cards makes me a bit queezy. “

Agreement, and this is because of past practice. We both know that tape-based recording is a tried and true medium. But when you think about it, recording an image digitally to tape (as opposed to analogue) has been around now for about 10 years and we both trust it, yes?

So now I’m starting to think about what’s a more reliable way these days: tape or card because they’re both digital. The tape is being recorded as it is dragged across recording heads. The card has a solid electrical connection that doesn’t move. I’m starting to think the card idea is the better one. It’s the post-production workflow that’s still got everyone in a tizzy.

– Don

[Rafael Amador]

I agree.
We go to “no moving parts” system.
I understand why Apple is not pushing the BR (I bought a BR burner to stock my EX-1 footage).
It won’t be able to compete with the solid memory.
Flash cards are already bigger, cheaper and faster than BR.
For me tapes would be the best if would exist the “Random Access Tape”:-)
Rafael

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[Don Greening]

[Rafael Amador] “We go to “no moving parts” system. “

If your name is “Panasonic” then this certainly seems to be the current trend. When they come out with a P2 version of their flagship VariCam camera then you know they’re banking heavily on the end user acceptance of solid state recording.

I think Sony is a little different in their thinking and want to continue offering their customers both tape-based as well as tapeless recording options. Consider the new 650F HDCAM camcorder from Sony. It’s tape-based and because of this I don’t see Sony walking away from tape any time soon. Not with 43,000 HDCAM camera and deck users worldwide.

– Don

[Rafael Amador]

Hi Don,
Despite of the efforts of SONY, I think that the death of the tape is just a matter of time.
Sure will survive high-capacity tape-based formats for archiving or some special tasks.
CDs and DVDs will disappear in the next few years.
DVDs, CDs and tapes will remain for certain time in Thirld World countries.
The only place in Earth where the “Diskette” still alive.
HDs have a future as long as they will keep faster than solid memory.
This is my forecast for the nest few years.
rafael

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[Wing Poon]

Hey guys,

Thanks so much for your input. It’s definitely helped me to understand how the EX1 uses the SxS when recording. If you don’t mind me asking one more question (and I’m pretty sure this will be the last):

As I mentioned earlier, I am contemplating getting the MxM SDHC adapter to use in the EX1. From what I’ve read, in order to use these cards, the EX1 has to be updated with the latest firmware. Now, I don’t have an EX1 and will be getting one soon. However, once I get it, I won’t have time to ship it to Sony to update the firmware (I’m going out of the country at the end of the month). So, would the EX1 that I am about to buy have the latest firmware? If not, then I’m not going to bother getting the MxM cards. Any thoughts?

Thanks so much for helping me out. You guys are awesome!

[Wing Poon]

Whoops. Guess I should have done a simple Google search before typing up that message:

https://www.dvinfo.net/conf/archive/index.php/t-144711.html

Yes, they’ve confirmed that a new EX1 comes with the latest firmware. That’s pretty sucky for the early adopters who had to pay $100 to get it updated.

[Don Greening]

[wing poon] “Yes, they’ve confirmed that a new EX1 comes with the latest firmware.”

Yeah but make sure your vendor doesn’t try to sell you a N.O.S. camera. That stands for “new old stock.” If they do chances are that it won’t have the latest firmware update.

– Don