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About the new Mac Pro-X
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First of all we don’t even know the price, and simply for being small doesn’t make it mini.
It looks cool and its looks like it will be very fast and next year even faster, what more do we need? Thunderbolt is very fast. The technology is new and this system is not for the needs we have now but for the future. My G5 still works, one of the places I work for still uses Legacy on their 12 Core MacPros. Why should the new MacPro integrate anything from older workflows? I don’t see the point.
As far as I remember DaVinci Resolve used to be this huge machine thing, pretty expensive. Even if the new MacPro turns out more expensive, I can get Resolve for free, or 1000 bucks for the full package.
“Always look on the bright side of life” – Monty Python
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[Nikolas Bäurle] “small doesn’t make it mini”
Its always the small ones that get so defensive 😛
I meant it as a self contained parking lot like the mini. The comparison is fair.
[Nikolas Bäurle] “It looks cool and its looks like it will be very fast and next year even faster, what more do we need?”
Who is that for? The businessman? Looking cool is still in? Being fast is everything? Not sure if you heard, a lot of post facilities were doing big layoffs and vfx houses at the oscars had some words buzzing around…like “bankruptcy”. For an industry on the ropes, on a rollarcoaster of retooling, sacrificing and repackaging costs, it sure would be a peculiar decision to buy what looks “cool” and what’s fast without any other consideration.
[Nikolas Bäurle] “My G5 still works, one of the places I work for still uses Legacy on their 12 Core MacPros. Why should the new MacPro integrate anything from older workflows? I don’t see the point.”
I don’t see your point. FCP cut very deep in the industry, which is why this self contained parking lot is a very puzzling move. As is the Server EOL. But I don’t know much, I just work in a post facility with 14 MPROS 😉
[Nikolas Bäurle] “As far as I remember DaVinci Resolve used to be this huge machine thing, pretty expensive. Even if the new MacPro turns out more expensive, I can get Resolve for free, or 1000 bucks for the full package.”
So was color. So was Avid…we can shine many lights on examples here that have nothing to really do with anything. Because these systems were more expensive the criticisms on this new rig and how they will incorporate in current workflows are automatically invalid?
It’s a discussion, not a black and white issue.
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I have been interested in hearing the feedback from the audio community. Agro seems common. They see that this is a GPU puppy and lack of eSata, internal drive and PCLe and rack mounting seems a problem to many in pro audio.
So the perception that Apple doesn’t care about audio pros seems to be strong with this MacPro announcement.
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If the base model is $6000, how many here will get one?
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It won’t be.
Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1,Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1.3, Premiere Pro 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Avid MC, Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz 24Gb RAM GTX-285 120GB SSD, Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 8Gb SSD, G5 Quadcore PCIe -
i never said current workflows are invalid. My point simply is that technology changes, and at some point post facilites and individuals will have to adapt, or decide for a different system, or use what they currently use for the time being, and since there’s also the Hackintosh option I don’t see it as such a big problem.
The postproduction I work for hasn’t lost any business because of FCPX, and they’re taking their time to decide what to do next. I work in Berlin, so I don’t know the industry in the States…but do these bankruptcies have anything to do with FCPX or Macs? If a post house is going bankrupt doesn’t that have to do with factors like an economic crisis or the use of cheap labor, which is going on in all industries?
The clients I’ve mentioned FCPX to are always interested but don’t care what they use as long as the work gets done. FCP7 is still pretty darn fast for the needs of today.
And what’s wrong the cool factor. This Pro is not just for facilities. Apple doesn’t just sell technology, this has always been the case. Those who want to afford one, will, and for those who don’t, there’s plenty of options out there.
“Always look on the bright side of life” – Monty Python
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[Jim Wiseman] “It won’t be.”
But if it is?
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I don’t think the base will be 6 grand but a maxed out one will be in that ballpark or more easily. ECC RAM, PCIe storage, Dual uber GPU’s, 12 core Xeon – these are very pricey items, Then factor in Apple’s way higher than average margins on hardware… this ain’t gonna be cheap ’cause you’re gonna wanna ad 2 4K Cinema Display’s and those will be insanely expensive too…
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
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In 1999, I remember being in a $600/hour Davinci Resolve Suite at a mid-level NYC post house. Massive interface, massive hardware.
Now Davinci Lite works up to 2K for FREEE. FCPX is $300. (Alright, let’s say $800 with a decent set of plug ins, etc).
If the new Mac Pro sets me back $3,000, so what?
The huge drop in cost coupled with the huge gain in capability, quality, and speed is simply amazing.
At the time, a Beta SP Camera was $75K. With glass, add another $15-$25–for a quality zoom lens. Today, a C300 with a fine set of glass is $25k. And the quality improvement is HUGE.
Folks, this is a great time to be in the video business. Maybe not the film business. But we have two edit systems, both on FCPX, and I can’t wait to get a new mac pro. From my perspective, for my work, my clients, my budgets, it looks terrific.
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Unless you can get a new Mac Pro without 12 cores or DUAL FirePros in the first place, I fail to see how it will be close to the base Mac Pro’s price on the previous model.
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