A Series of unfortunate events.

[Peter Berthet]

Vince, and anyone else who cares to challenge the notion that the software is crap.

Im 100% sure none of you are doing long-form edits, if you read some of the other entries from other editors who HAVE experienced these problems the common thread is that theyre working on large scale, complex projects.

Premiere is in its element when doing short simple jobs, i wont contest that.
But once you get an hour and a half project running with hundreds (perhaps thousands) of edits and over 400 pieces of media, it brings PPRO to its knees. Simply because, i dont believe they ever intended or tested the software for this purpose.

Thankfully, this time there was no solid deadline for the job, but what happens in the future ?

Id rather not take that chance, unless Adobe can do a serious overhaul of the way the software handles longform jobs.

~Peter Berthet
Sydney, Australia

[Vince Becquiot]

Peter,

I do work on long form projects and am not stranger to 500 + cuts, I’ve been doing this for a while, and as I said we use hardware acceleration. So, you may be experiencing software only issues, any NLE will bog down at some point without either hardware acceleration or transcoding. And this is what you do in FCP, you first transcode to Prores.

The equivalent to Prores in Premiere is Cineform, but I’ll give you that, it doesn’t come bundled with Premiere, and it’s not exactly cheap, but if you are doing these kind of complex projects, that shouldn’t be an issue…

Vince Becquiot

Kaptis Studios
San Francisco – Bay Area

[Peter Berthet]

were using blackmagic hardware, its a blackmagic project

again, its not about performance while editing, its excrutiating load times and export failures

the same project we’re working on just loaded up in FCP on a slower machine in about 30 seconds

~Peter Berthet
Sydney, Australia

[Rick Godin]

Peter,
I’m in the same boat on the other side of the world. My business has revolved around corporate travel event video work for almost 30 years. We shoot hours and hours of footage at an event; log and load hundreds of clips; and “paint” with those shots a music video in extremely tight deadlines.

If all my clients hadn’t dropped through the bottom of the stock market this year and stayed on track with thier events, I probably would have been regressing to CS3 or even CS2 which seemed to work for location work.

My “home” commercial work revolves around similar large volume project files. Building tourism commercials, VOD’s, web video from several terrabytes of video clips collected over the years.

I got a bad taste for Mac’s years ago (maybe wrongly so) using edit systems that crashed for no reason so I really don’t want to go to FCP (plus heavily invested in PC’s). So let me ask: what’s anyone’s experience doing “mega-media” projects using Avid products? bought and tried Avid Express when I got Premiere 6.0 and for me, Premiere won out. Had been doing my cutting on a Panasonic Post box from Beta and was scaling down to DV to make the baggage load to Europe & Hawaii smaller and lighter.

Let me know about large volume jobs on Avid. Not long timelines, but large numbers of clips! Done those 2 hours jobs with 20 shots in Premiere, NO Problemo!

You never get hurt in the air!