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A question of common approach.
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I don’t think that that is at all outside them realm of possibility. It all depends on how committed Apple is to the product. If they stay with it it could become a standard. But given their track record they could just as easily kill it and pretend it never existed.
Tim
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[Lance Bachelder] “I don’t think they’re gonna lose the race in the long run, they have far deeper pockets than Avid or Adobe and can literally wait until the current crop of kids using FCPX as second nature, enters the work place and eventually replaces us all.
“Yes, Lance.
That’s why I decided to at least learn it. I can’t bet against a company with that much money.
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[TImothy Auld] “But given their track record they could just as easily kill it and pretend it never existed.”
After 12 years or so like FCP legacy. They’ll have something else by then. After all Ubillos said “for the next 10 years.”
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Or they could do it tomorrow.
Tim
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[Greg Andonian] “they shouldn’t force it on people overnight like Apple did with FCPX”
No one was forced. Avid and Adobe were available.
[Greg Andonian] “his whole fiasco could have been avoided it Apple had taken the same approach with X that they used for DVD Studio Pro, and kept things the way they were but also introduce a “magnetic timeline mode””
I don’t think that would have been technically easy to execute. They weren’t building on old technology. They didn’t want to build on the old GUI.
[Greg Andonian] “is there are other very capable NLEs that FCP7 users can switch to very easily and use very effectively, without having to spend time re-learning everything they’ve ever known about how an NLE works.”
Yes for me. I spend 12 years on Avid before spending 10 years on FCP. I probably could have moved back to Avid more easily than move to FCPX. I chose the latter though.
[Greg Andonian] “What Apple should have done, at the very least, is use the DVDSP approach with this release and then make it known that the next major release of FCPX would not include the track mode.”
Not technically viable. They could have had an 18 month (give or take) crossover to the new system as they did when they moved from OS9 to OSX. For reasons we don’t know, they chose not to have both NLEs co-exist for a time.
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[TImothy Auld] “Or they could do it tomorrow.”
Not likely from any reasonable business perspective. Not with a program that people keep buying (whether or not they’re actually using it). “The Cylons have a plan”
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It’s just annoying because it has the same name. I think. Every time I’ve made a major shift in NLE’s it’s been a huge change. Except from Avid to FCP ( and some personal use of EditDV) which was basically the result of the creators of Premiere bowing to Avid and accepting that was the standard of the time. But before Avid I started on the VideoCube/TurboCube and then a huge conceptual shift to Media100. Both were completely different and didn’t have the source record metaphor. The VideoCube didn’t even show video on the computer. It was really a switcher controlled by a computer. When I switched to Media100 it felt archaic by comparison. Everything had to be rendered. The jump to Avid was even more bizarre. I had never had to track patch before. Perhaps because my previous NLEs only had the equivalent of 1 Avid track. The switch to FCP was more of a “where is that function in here” kinda change. It was an Avid clone compared to the differences in the other Apps.
So I guess it was time. Things were getting stale. Still not happy about the way it was handled. But FCP X is just another NLE with a different way of doing things. Except for that name. It doesn’t do everything, but I’m finding that much is what it can do, it does better.
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A common approach? You mean there are standards? What standards? You mean people have been doing this before? Were they smart? Does it matter? This is art, after all. I should be able to put up a black screen with a blinking green cursor in one corner, add a voice-over about the apocalypse, and get instant fame, shouldn’t I?
(I just came up with that idea, by the way – what’s your “approach?”)Celebrate the democratization of one of the most expensive methods of self-expression, and stop whining over your loss of importance in the world. Sure, once you were a virtuoso violinist, celebrated by millionaires and billionaires for your artful representation of their messages to the world. But now . . . well, now you’ve been joined by 1 billion other editors, filling the earth with their own messages to the world.
“Down with the 1%!”
“Up with the 1%!”
“Here’s how to join the 1%!”
“Why you should love the 33-66%!”It’s all very meaningful and exciting.
My son watches hours of video-game replays with voice-over – everyday. DayZ, COD, Left 4 Dead, Team Fortress, MineCraft, etc. That’s as entertaining to him as Gilligan’s Island was for me when I was 10. $100,000’s spent advertising with content that takes less time to assemble than it does to play the game.
It’s a new world, Aindreas. They don’t need you any more. No need for writers – we can all text. No need for cameramen – everyone’s got an iPhone. No need for directors – photographers can yell “action.” Actors don’t need to act – with enough takes we just get lucky. Lights are increasingly unnecessary, and editing is really a simple process of just killing the boring stuff. I mean, if the footage beats another lolcat video, yu’re goldn dewd.
Just . . . whatever you do, don’t lose sync. ‘Cause that’s not professional.Tape is dead. TV is dead. Hollywood is almost dead. Facebook and the MacPro could be dead. If you feel like your “common approach” is dead . . . well, you’re catching on.
I know you suffer from some psychological trauma at being reduced to just another hand-in-the-air clamoring for attention. Grow up, Aindreas. It’s a new world, and no one is listening. So just assemble clips as quick as you can, hit the submit button, and thank God that Apple had the forsight to see all this and make it easier for you to get out the door. What used to take days, can now be completed in 31 minutes. Frankly, if you do take longer, no one’s going to see the difference anyway. You don’t think they’re watching that closely, do you? Sorry to burst your bubble, but I can’t bear to see you struggling over this any longer. It’s like you expect your passion for editing to be respected and understood or something? Just let it go, Aindreas, . . . let it go.
If you want to take up a meaningful art, try the kazoo, in a small white room, with a single window looking out over the grounds. It’ll be a step up.
I’ll be in the next room over, trying my hand at satire. -
Are you a clown?
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[Glen Hurd] “If you want to take up a meaningful art, try the kazoo, in a small white room, with a single window looking out over the grounds. It’ll be a step up.
I’ll be in the next room over, trying my hand at satire.
“That post gets a “like” from me – I forgot we could do “likes” on here
Steve Connor
“The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel”
Adrenalin Television
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