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  • Charlie Austin

    August 5, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    [David Lawrence] “Yes, but don’t you need to use the Paste Attributes dialogue do do this?

    Well, yeah, so? 🙂 Also, since this feature (expanded audio and fade handles) doesn’t exist in other NLE’s, any comparison is invalid. You can’t do it in Pr even if you want to. 😉

    But, if I detach the audio like it is in Pr, and put dissolves at the head or tail of a clip, it’s the same millisecond click you describe. I don’t generally do that, ‘cuz fade handles are more to my liking. 🙂

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  • Charlie Austin

    August 5, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “Hey sure – it’s just that every time you want to re-construct a custom audio dissolve:

    after you make the blade edit, you’re first of all right clicking and expanding audio components,

    then you are selecting and modifying the fade on the outgoing clip, then selecting and modifying the fade on the incoming clip. I’ve done a few run throughs – that’s pretty much the process right? Jeremy seemed to be doing that in his demo on the thread below.

    Have I got this right?”

    Well, no, not really. If you have a custom head/tail fade handle fade combo you like on a component, just copy/paste attributes to your other selected components. Easy.

    However, you’re comparing Apples to Oranges. The proper comparison would be for you to disconnect the audio (and complain about not having sync indicators, lol) Then just copy/paste your custom dissolve transitions to the the head/tail of your selected clip. Just like you do in Pr.

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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    August 5, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    [Steve Connor] “Aren’t people saying that the FCPX way is tolerable not more efficient?”

    no that’s bang on – I was just surprised at the way it ends up working. Charlie said people have been sending feature requests on the audio dissolve – no harm as it seems a bit of a headwreck. although messing with the fade gui and options is a fun town. Although I found it a bit finnicky to access the fade handles on the edge of the clip?

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • David Lawrence

    August 5, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “Well, yeah, so? :-)”

    Well, so you’re:

    1) selecting a dialog box from a menu
    2) checking the appropriate check boxes (FCPX doesn’t remember your last choice)
    3) hitting OK

    To get exact same result I get in a single key press!

    Pants, Charlie. Pants. ;D

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  • Charlie Austin

    August 5, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    [David Lawrence] “Well, so you’re:

    1) selecting a dialog box from a menu
    2) checking the appropriate check boxes (FCPX doesn’t remember your last choice)
    3) hitting OK

    To get exact same result I get in a single key press!”

    Well, no, I’m hitting a KB command, checkbox, Enter. But as I said, it’s an invalid comparison anyway, as no such feature exists in Pr.

    If I’m copy pasting dissolves on connected audio clips, it’s a single key press!

    No Pants! :-}

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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    August 5, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    [Charlie Austin] ” If you have a custom head/tail fade handle fade combo you like on a component, just copy/paste attributes to your other selected components. Easy. “

    well no charlie.
    so let’s forget copying and pasting things after the fact and concentrate on the version of a custom dissolve:

    OK -so you have an audio music track you’re cutting down, you make a cut or a lift say, and then at the new edit point join in the music, where you might have placed a dissolve and slid it left or right to taste… instead:

    at the edit point, you are first expanding audio components, then you are selecting and modifying the fade on the outgoing clip, then selecting and modifying the fade on the incoming clip. I believe this is correct. and that is a quite serious amount of clicks.

    look at it this way – if apple read this, they might be minded to move on it, because that is a lot of work for every instance?

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Paul Neumann

    August 5, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “nd, on topic, I can’t believe anyone would want to work in a system where you had to click and hold a button and drag the mouse to scrub, or worse, require you to click somewhere or something to solo a clip to scrub it.”

    Of course if your cursor is over either the source monitor or program monitor then a two finger swipe across the back of the mouse or on the trackpad is a MUCH more accurate way to find exactly what you’re looking for.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    August 5, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    we should stop this David. Why are we hammering on this? Oh wait now I remember:

    https://i.imgur.com/574uWB1.jpg

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

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  • David Lawrence

    August 5, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “If I’m copy pasting dissolves on connected audio clips, it’s a single key press!”

    Cool!

    I should add that my single key press applies asymmetrical dissolves (of differing lengths) to both the video and the audio at the same time.

    Can you paste asymmetrical dissolves on both connected audio clips and video at the same time in FCPX?

    If so, maybe I could make it work!

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  • Charlie Austin

    August 5, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “OK -so you have an audio music track you’re cutting down, you make a cut or a lift say, and then at the new edit point join in the music, where you might have placed a dissolve and slid it left or right to taste… instead:”

    We’ve moved on from the lack of asymmetric dissolves. 😉 But in you’r example it’s the same workflow in x as anything, Other than the (current) lack of asymmetric dissolves. You’re correct on that one detail. But save that one thing, exactly the same. And 99% of the time a centered dissolve works fine. It’s not a big deal at all.

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