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  • Bret Williams

    February 14, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Yep. Not once did he look at a video in the event window. Because he can’t. This would be better performed on an iPad where you don’t have to reach 50 yards for each action. Why does he need bigger buttons for crying out loud? They’re like 2 inch square on that thing.

  • Alex Hawkins

    February 14, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    [Shane Ross] “This might be fine if ALL you do is editing via mouse. I do so much with keyboard shortcuts, “

    Exactly! What’s quicker, flailing with your hands all over a screen or letting your fingers dance over a keyboard?

    Mmmm

  • Alex Hawkins

    February 14, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    Sorry I just finished watching the whole demo but is he kidding or what??!!

    Imagine editing all day every day like that. My joints are cactus now. Imagine how they’d be if I’d started editing at 20 like that!

    Phew!!

    Alex Hawkins
    Canberra, Australia

  • Michael Gissing

    February 14, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Years ago when watching Star Trek I thought how horrible the future will be when we have to use touch screens that beep. At the time the DAW system I was using, dSP, had a touch screen option. I hated both the ergonomics of it and the fact that it was less elegant than the ergonomic controller that dSP made. The combination of dedicated controller and a keyboard made the touch screen seem slow and uncomfortable.

    Compared to a mouse driven system it has some merits but why oh why doesn’t someone just make a proper ergonomic controller for FCP? Learning keyboard short cuts makes more sense than this approach. anything that makes you reach and hold your hands in the air without wrist support is fatiguing and ultimately uncomfortable. Big touch screens are not the future but a 90’s retro idea.

  • Bill Davis

    February 14, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Geez,

    Sometimes folks around here get so amazingly stuck on what they’re used to that it baffles me. Look, if you don’t want a thing like this – fine. I promise nobody will force you to buy one presuming it ever comes out as a product.

    But honestly, I remember the first MacBook I bought that had a trackpad built in. Seemed really weird for the first half-hour to have to move a cursor with my right thumb. Totally “non-intuitive.”

    About a week later, the thumb pad had essentially “disappeared” from being anything but “normal” to me. Now, I switch back and forth from my desktop machine (mouse and keyboard) to my laptop (trackpad and keyboard) to my iPad (touchscreen only) and never really even think about which I’m using. They all feel perfectly “natural.”

    I think most of you guys are WAY over thinking the potential distractions and muscle use issues these things will generate. You’re brain and your body will adapt. Period.

    And if not, use something else.

    Again, it’s just another choice. And choice are nearly always a better thing than no choice.

    FWIW.

    “Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

  • Alex Hawkins

    February 15, 2012 at 12:01 am

    [Bill Davis] “I think most of you guys are WAY over thinking the potential distractions and muscle use issues these things will generate. You’re brain and your body will adapt. Period.”

    Righto Bill give it a go. Floor it!

    Let me know how you’re doin in 5 years time.

  • Bill Davis

    February 15, 2012 at 12:13 am

    [Alex Hawkins] “Righto Bill give it a go. Floor it!

    Let me know how you’re doin in 5 years time.

    I think I can probably tell you right now. Based on my personal experience.

    About 9 years ago, I re-vamped my edit suite. I bought a nice editing desk console from Middle Atlantic.

    It has a dedicated monitor bridge. (Before that my Cinema display was on my edit desk at normal desk level.)

    So when I put it up on the bridge, know what happened? My neck was sore for about a week. I was using specific muscles that weren’t conditioned for that angle. Over the first few months, know what? The neck pain disappeared as I adapted.

    I’ve been using this desk and similar monitors at this same angle now for nearly a decade. And have NEVER had another problem.

    This does not dismiss the reality or serious of RSI (repetitive strain injuries) and I have immense sympathy for people who suffer from them.

    But over my career – I’ve never encountered much of that.

    People are different. What bothers one specific human can’t be easily extrapolated to the whole class of humans. And so I think the smart thing is to allow everyone to decide what’s best for themselves.

    But to “presume” that a big touchscreen will be a physiological disaster before much of anyone gets to try it for themselves is kinda silly, IMO.

    Simple as that.

    “Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

  • Alex Hawkins

    February 15, 2012 at 12:26 am

    Mmmm yes interesting, I get your point Bill. But seriously, you don’t think that the less the hands have to move the better?

    I guess off the bat I just don’t see any advantage of it for an everyday user. Mucking about on your iPad, sure, could be fun but doing it 8 to 5 Monday to Friday, I don’t think it would be my first choice.

    I’m curious, what do you see as the benefits of it?

    Alex Hawkins
    Canberra, Australia

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 15, 2012 at 1:09 am

    I was messing with a buddy’s Samsung Galaxy S2 phone the other day (which as far as cell phones go, has a monster screen).

    It has a feature that I thought was pretty cool, and pretty simple.

    When typing, it gave you just a touch of vibration feedback. It was just enough to feel like you were pushing something, but not enough to drive you crazy.

    There’s no question in my mind that FCPX was built with a touch interface in mind. It might be a few years, or five years, but that foundation seems to be built.

  • Michael Gissing

    February 15, 2012 at 1:54 am

    I don’t understand you Bill. You too have options. Please stop lecturing people on whether they overthink or don’t know how to adapt.

    Personally I have been into software and hardware innovation and testing for over 25 years. So I am not a luddite that won’t adapt. Rather I am someone who has tried these so called new technologies and found good reason like ergonomics to judge them as inferior. As I pointed out better ergonomic controllers would be vastly superior to touch screens. That point was proven in the DAW world 15 years ago.

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