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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy A few notes about Chroma Key and NAB

  • David Battistella

    April 20, 2007 at 3:48 pm

    I think that shake give you this 30 day free trail

    https://www.apple.com/shake/trial/

    It’s worth it for retimeing, the Killer keyers and when you persist rotopaint a microphone or a lightstand out of a shot for the first time, you will think you’ve found god.

    Steep curve, but brillliantly laid out software. Everything is following this NODE based structure (color, etc) so it is worth understanding this kind of compositing.

    David

    Peace and Love 🙂

  • Zak Mussig

    April 20, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    Ya know… I just watched their demo video again, and I’m going to go back on what I just said. That’s a clever plug-in with a really nice interface. I think node based compositing will show up in the next version of Motion, but that will obviously be a while. This is a nice, easy to use, otion in the meantime.

    Zak

  • Arnie Schlissel

    April 20, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    I’ve used Conduit in both Motion & FCP. It’s pretty good. You need to build a key using several nodes, & there’s no matte choker. But you can, if you want, create your entire composite within just this one filter.

    If you’re interested they have a demo & several good tutorials on their web site.

  • Arnie Schlissel

    April 20, 2007 at 4:02 pm

    [David Battistella] “when you persist rotopaint a microphone or a lightstand out of a shot for the first time, you will think you’ve found god. “

    That was pretty darn close to what my reaction was the 1st time I did paint out a mike boom!

    If they could combine the best features of Motion & Shake with the nodal workflow & easily accessible timeline, they’d really have a killer app!

    Arnie
    Now in post: Peristroika, a film by Slava Tsukerman
    https://www.arniepix.com/blog

  • Ben Holmes

    April 20, 2007 at 7:58 pm

    Whilst I hate to add another option to your list, the diamond keyer that is built into Combustion is exceptional, and I’ve tried most of them. recently a colleague had to key greenscreen on a footballer wearing a partly green shirt. To his amazement, he was able to achieve almost all of the key without additional mattes. It’s really smart keyer that came down from Smoke I believe, and as a part of Combustion is practically worth the price of the entire app alone. Clean, intelligent, quick.

    Ben

    Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd

    EVS & FCP specialists for live OB operations.

    New HD edit/slomo truck on the road this month. Dual FCP systems/6 slomo positions.

  • Ben Scott

    April 20, 2007 at 9:25 pm

    “there’s no matte choker”

    I am not sure as I havent tried conduit; but surely you can create a matte choker by simply using a curves command on the alpha channel that gets created. often you might use a curves command to make the keyer have more contrast and then a second curves command to create a matte choker. or at least this has worked well for me in photoshop before. correct me if I am wrong.

    You can also soften/feather just by blurring the alpha channel.

    for spill suppression if it isnt there as standard you just use color correction filter that moves to the opposite colour in the wheel from the colour being keyed e.g. magenta for a green screen.

    if you need other tools for compositing like light wrapping this is another node and layer on top, there is a good tutorial on this using the motion tools at https://www.motionsmarts.com/tutorials/lightwrap/lightwrap1.html

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  • Arnie Schlissel

    April 20, 2007 at 9:35 pm

    Yup, that’s what I do. I use gaussan blur to soften the mattes in Conduit & gamma correction to choke them. It has pretty good spill suppression, though.

    Arnie
    Now in post: Peristroika, a film by Slava Tsukerman
    https://www.arniepix.com/blog

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